Regenerating flat batteries

Submitted: Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 17:12
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I heard somewhere along the track that you could regenerate / desulphate older batteries by putting some Bex powder in each cell ? Don't know if someone was having a lend of me or whether this works ? Just got home from 4 months on the road and second car's battery won't hold its charge even though it's less than a year old. Suspect the built in alarm / LED and other Bill Gates black boxes have caused the battery to go flat whilst not in use. Appreciate any suggestions to re-enliven it before I shell out hard earned $$ for a new one
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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 17:22

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 17:22
No. For practical purposes anyway.

If you want to set up a plant and recycle old batteries you can use some fancy chemicals and processes to do it, but if it was as simple as Bex... lead acid batteries have been around for a long time and Bex for a long time too.

In fact since Gaston Plante in 1859.

If it were that simple word just might have got out.

1 year from a battery subjected to off roading, heat extremes and deep discharge from time to time has been about the usual for me.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:24

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:24
Hey Andrew

It doesn't matter what Battery I put in my cars they last 6 months, so I now use a cheap one and have a couple of spare in the shed.

In fact I am putting a new one in one of my cars tomorrow.

The corrugations just stuff them big time.

How did you get along with Bill?

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:49

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:49
If your tyres last longer at least your batteries don't... and Bill and I had a good talk and he is looking into the proposal and will be getting back to me - many thanks.

Cheers
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 07:30

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 07:30
Have been told that boat battery's are the go, ,, or is that just some Autolec talking sales crap .....I don't know, not my field

Apparently they are designed to take a pumbling, as boats slap the water ,,,

Cheers
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 07:33

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 07:33
Have been told that boat battery's are the go, ,, or is that just some Autolec talking sales crap .....I don't know, not my field

Apparently they are designed to take a pumbling, as boats slap the water ,,,

Cheers
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 16:35

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 16:35
Bucky,
yes, and yes again...

The plates are 'often' attached differently in "boat" batteries, that is why they tend last longer - in boats.
Nothing to do with the problem Old Mal has questioned about 'bex' regenerating 'stuffed' batteries!

Old Mal,
Take it back for an appraisal from the shop you bought it if it's under warranty, being only 12 months old.
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Reply By: Nifty1 - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 20:23

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 20:23
I managed to cook an expensive Trojan battery, using a crappy Kmart charger. Boiled it dry and made the ends bow out. Never could get a charge back in to it.

I then bought a Jaycar charger which I think is described as 4-stage - cost about $170 anyway. First stage is Refresh, and I left it on this for a long time (I went away for a couple of weeks) and now that battery appears to be holding a charge well. Time will tell, but I have heard that some of these pulsed chargers can work wonders with a fully-discharged battery.

I'm probably about to get shot down by the experts now (ducking for cover) but that was my experience anyway.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 16:41

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 16:41
Nifty
the difference between a "crappy Kmart charger" and a decent one is initially only $100, see it's saved your battery - for now.

It's the PWM that does the work and that is not available in "crappy chargers" so stick yer head back up, your safe :-))
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Reply By: Go-N-Grey (WA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:11

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:11
When someone has an answer, yell out loud.

I have a large and heavy duty battery several years old that I use in my boat (Volvo Penta Inboard Outboard.)
I didnt use the boat for about 4 months, and was to busy to do periodic charges.

When I went to run the engine to circulate oil etc all I got was a "click" from the starter motor.

Checked SG with Hydrometer and each cell was well in to the red.

Placed on charger with float facility , and after a couple of weeks the hydro was well up into the green on all but one cell which stubbornly only raised to top of red, bottom of white.


Dont want to chuck out a battery because of one dud cell, any suggestions?

Will this battery still start the boat reliable given that only one cell wont charge?

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Scoof (SA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:03

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:03
Go-n-Grey at a guess your battery is knackered.
I also have a boat and have a small solar panel just keeping thinks going and the battery is almost 10 years old.

It will probably bleep itself now because I opened my mouth.

I think the only reason it's lasted so long, is it gets stirred up with a bit of a charge every day .

Cheers Scoof.
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Reply By: David A A - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:42

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 21:42
Hi Mal
if you asked me out fishing I would have to say that if you are using that battery in the boat, then I would say no, I have to mow the lawn.
I love fishing, hate mowing the lawn, cant walk on water or swim.

regards David
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:34

Saturday, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:34
Mal,

I would suggest the battery is a goner. Don't waste time on it, if it's badly sulfated it's beyond practical repair.

I have stuffed two batteries before I "saw the light"

I now ensure I use a low voltage cutout device between the battery and a fridge, etc. connected to it. This will stop the battery discharging below 11.6 volts, or 30% capacity remaining.

Projecta market one (ODP500) called a Discharge Protector for about $30 and available from Kmart, Repco, etc.)
Well worth the small investment.

Projecta Discharge Protector
Bill


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