OH&S rules!! Regarding filling up fuel containers.

could be true - but the second you pick up the pump -- you are touching steel - unless you have one of those pumps that is fully insulated - in any case - i have made it habit over the years to touch steel first before opening fuel lids or pumps ( for petrol cars ) to discharge any static ...

Boc

Ah well!, not going to bad then .....lol.


Cheers Axle.

Thats what this dude at the servo was trying to explain , as he had his quiet smoke up the side of the garage!.

Cheers Axle

G'day Axle,

Surely that has no impact on his, or other servo users health and safety???

Ross.

I was castigated a few years ago because it allegedly allowed fumes to build up in the well - the fact that it was a tray top with no place to allow a build up in the stiff breeze was too hard for the attendant to comprehend. Rules is rules and as I say below "Don't confuse me with facts etc"

The earthing things sounds correct, Rossco. It seems to also apply to refilling LPG bottles. I recall some time ago having the Servo owner asking me to put the bottle onto the ground rather than on the rear door for that very reason.

Jack

For future reference, it might help to push the "Spell Check" button beneath your message when composing it, so as to make it easier to read. ;-)

Andrew

hehehehehe......and I think David needs to fit another button that says "WTF"........... I don't understand what top bloke is trying to say (or should I say "trying 2 say"?)..... hehehehe

I'll have a crack at the code LOL

I have done an Aust Institute of Petroleum (AIP) course.

The reason for placing the fuel jerries on the ground is due to the static electricity created when decanting fuel from the pump to the jerry. The vehicles (or Trailers) tyres insulate the jerries from earthing adequately causing a potential hazard.

I have witnessed the servo consol operators smoking within 6 meters (I don't know what this ahs to do with it).

I used to fit cars with some sort of petroleum fueled machine which is why I was required to do the AIP course.

One way to earth the jerries it to touch them with one hand and hold the pump handle with the other.

A woman in Queensland went up because of the clothing she wore, which created static.


I hope that's right,

any other takers??

Cheers Kev

I love it when people try to offer a reason for there stupidity ( or to make themselves appear more intelligent

i then play the dumb card and get them to explain how and why's of there comment- This is one i would have loved to have gotten -- voltage difference 12 v to 240 v --- classic ..... did you have to plug your car into there pump ??? LMAO


Boc

concol operator should know dangers to do work there has to do course

If he wasn't he probably didn't want to go there.

Do a course? what a 5 min induction ?


Boc

That would have meant having to learn to read.

Actually, its aircraft to ground, tanker to ground, tanker to aircraft, nozzle earthed to aircraft before opening fuel tank or connecting refuel fitting.
Dont refuel with a thunderstorm within 5 miles.........

Wow, i've never seen one....or at least taken notice of it.

Andrew

You will find that the rule / law ONLY applies to petrol not to diesel containers.

Sure but both servos were adament that I could not fill up my 200l tank. They were ok with my 20l plastic drums.

I have to start drinking Beam..

Kiwi,

Myth Busters busted that myth about mobile phones

Cheers Zev

"Totally busted"

Myth Busters also have to go back and re-do their testing because they leave things out or didnt get the environment right etc....dont believe first sight with them...

kiwi

I pulled into servo at Pt A Gutta, and Roachie was in front of me so I did a u turn and pulled up on the other side of the pump to use the other hose.
I waited and waited, looked at moron operator, he looked back waited and waited, eventually totally hissed off i went and asked what was wrong with pump, and he said that he couldnt turn it on because i was facing the wrong way???
Besides the verbal lecture I gave him I voted with my feet and went and spent my money a few hundred metres down the road.
Never been back there and never will, so they have lost hundreds of dollars already in fuel and food sales from our club members.

We use jerry cans every day with our work, and never been chatted about how we fill them, sometimes on the ground, sometimes on the tray, and sometimes we fill small motors direct from the pump.
Pity they arent more particular about the smokers who dont give a rats !

Cheers Pesty

Agreed with Mythbusters.
If there really was a problem, they would have banned the use of VHF/UHF mobile 2-ways years ago, which run 25W rather than the 0.5W peak from a mobile phone.
And the servos even ask you to turn off pagers!!! Like telling you to turn off your Ipod, hearing aid or car radio! That's an indication of their technical know-how.
There is far more risk of a spark in a vehicle from relays, starter solenoids and other switch contacts.
Many of these stories are myths circulated on email like those virus warnings, telling you to send it to everyone on your address list.
Gerry

Thats a bit harsh about facing the wrong way...but almost everyone who did a drive off on me was facing the "wrong" way....so i dont blame the guy - plus he's probably doing what he was told to do.

Many servo's have a one way in - one way out system and it works very well. many people drive around trying to find a pump and have forgotten which side their filller is. They face the "wrong"way and someone else comes in and faces the right way then they get bloked in because there is an idiot facing the wrong way who has someone in front of him and he cannt move untill the guy moves out of the way - its disaster waiting to happen....

They do ban the use of uhf's etc just like mobiles, mabe not every servo has the sticker for it but ours certainly do along with the smoking stickers....

if you ask me....people see what they want to see when it comes to the warning stickers....just like under 16's filling cars is a no no....not many people "see" that sign

Jock, Silly turning off ipods and hearing aids - they dont work like pagers, uhfs and phones.....there is no relay into them from another source. But while where at it why not turn off the shops air- con too...LOL !!!

Laura

Hi Laura,
The silly thing is that pagers don't work like vhf/uhf's and mobile phones either - they are just a receiver, passively receiving a signal, no transmitted signal. Absolutely no chance of a spark at all.
Unless the pager going off causes you to drop your cigarette!! :-)
Gerry

Hi again, Laura,
Meant to mention, as you're obviously in the servo business, what really cheeses me off is where some (not all) servos don't have clearly visible signs above the pumps indicating what products are at the pump. It's fine for most people who just fill up with petrol, as any pump will do, but diesel is another matter, with often just one pump providing diesel, and you can't read the sign on the pump till you drive right up to it. So if you're in the wrong lane, too bad, go around again. Sometimes, I've had to send out a spotter to find the diesel pump before I drive thru, coz there's nothing to indicate the diesel pump from a distance.
I once pointed this out to the attendant at the till, and he was totally non-receptive when I pointed out that the sign was only visible when you were right beside the pump; "other people don't seem to have this problem".
Gerry

....tanker/fuel hose :-))

Hey Sandman,

Didnt your light use to flash....on your pic..once upon a time....???

Laura

Laura, you could make the lights flash with an animated *.gif file but now we need to use *.jpg files or Jpegs which we can't animate. It was really a series of pics, where the area of the lights was doctored so it looked like they were on for some of the series. Just like a movie.