Leyland Brothers

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 11:33
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Good Morning all, just finished watching the double dvd set of the Leyland Brothers "Wheels Across A Wilderness" available from Big W. What a brilliant DVD. The first one is all there original footage of there journey West to East right through the middle, the longest way from one side of Australia to the other. The second one was the same trip done again last year with a group of 22 vehicles including Mike Leyland himself. Wow what a lot of history. Took them 6 weeks. What a fantastic trip this would be. They didn't rough it as much as the original did as they tryed to stay in parks and homesteads along the way. Mmmm Might have to get the other half to start saving her holidays after the Vic High Country at xmas. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:18

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:18
They wrote a book called "Where Dead men Lie" which described the 1966 trip. Its an interesting read, and I believe a fabntastic adventure which I have to admit inspired me to go bush in the 70's.

And then theres the doubters:
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Did they really go cross country north of the NT border?? Or did they take the newly graded highway below them, called the French Line? I've read the book, looking for the answer, and there's very little written after Andado. The dunes east of Andado would be impassable for the LandRover with the huge trailer - they said the put the small vehicle over the top and used it to pull the big one and trailer up the dune???

Any one know the answer?
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:32

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:32
Phil "they said the put the small vehicle over the top and used it to pull the big one and trailer up the dune???"
They actualy showed this in the dvd where they had a strap between the two vehicles and did exactly what you have described and pulled it up over the top. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 15:12

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 15:12
Hi Phil just watched again and when they did the trip last year they took the French Line which is approximately 50k south from where the Leyland Brothers actually crossed. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:16

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:16
Thanks Stephen,

Would have thought they'd cross further north of the French Line. Its Crown Land, so theres no problem with access. Maybe Mike is happy not to go back there again?

I must get the DVD - haven't seen the original movie since we did a school excusion at the Hoyts Cinema in Manly in the late 60's! I just remember them breaking lots of diffs. I'd really like to look closely at the footage in the Simpson to see if it resembles where I've been.
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Follow Up By: MintabiePete (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 20:31

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 20:31
Interesting Phil, I have never read any books or seen any dvd's of the Leyland brothers , but I do recall when I worked for Derek Knight in George Crescent in the Alice in the late 60's and can recall when I got into a discussion with the driver that brought a Leyland Hippo in to get some work done , an enormous rig , with big balloon tyres that I believe was owned by Andado station . I was told at the time that the Leyland brothers did the furtherer point west to the furtherer point east crossing in the 60's , and the discussion centred around this big Leyland rig towing the Leyland Brothers over some sand dunes at the time . At the time I think the discussion was about the claim that the Leyland Brothers said they did it all on their own . I never checked to see who was right and who was wrong , but it has stayed in the memory all these years :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:55

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:55
Pete,
interesting stuff. There's no mention in their book of any assistance by a truck. They did mention the existance of a large water truck with aircraft tyres that could cart 1000 gallons to supply the seismic camps that were out there at the time. That was at seismic camp2 which was about 12 miles E of Old Andado. From there they continued along a shotline south, and then said they turned east. Not much mention of anything else until they got to a salt lake on the Qld border. After busting 4 diffs, welding up a chassis and repairing broken springs near Andado, they seemed to have a straightforward run until the 5th broken diff at Eyre Creek.

Still, it was a pretty major achievement at the time. I take my hat off to them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:05

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:05
The Auslig 1 million Mosaic map shows the cleared lines that were referred to in the Leylands book. I reckon they would be mad not to have used them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:07

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:07
And the technique of one vehicle going down and pulling the other vehicle up was only referred to when they were almost all the way across, and broke another diff, leaving one vehicle with only 2wd.
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Follow Up By: MintabiePete (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:58

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:58
The Leyland , I cant really remember whether it was a Hippo or a Buffalo , but I am sure it was a 6x6 with balloon tyres with a large tray , probably 25 foot . I dont think it had awater tank on it , but that could have been removed to come to the Alice for repairs . I was working on another vehicle at the time . It would have been great if digital cameras were around at the time eh!

But I agree with you , it was a remarkable achievement at the time :)
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:03

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:03
Waiting for my dvd to arrive, purchased from ebay.Should have it monday so carnt wait.
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:13

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:13
They are both great DVD's and you have to be brave man to say that on this forum.I posted it about 5 weeks ago.
The picture quality of the old movie is very good and formatted to wide screen tv.
The interview with Mike Leyland in the extras was very interesting.
But poor old Mike has seen better days.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:02

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:02
Haven't we all ??
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 10:26

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 10:26
Hi All
I have just ordered my copy from Ezydvd at $29.95 It should make interesting viewing gain, It was watching this movie when a young boy that made me want to do these same thing when I grew up.

It does not matter weather it was 40 years ago or today, anyone that wants to see the real Simpson only has to venture into the NT and then across the desert hard way, we have done it and know first hand what it is like. The harder and larger dunes are in the eastern side of the desert.

Those that are wanting a real challenge, start to plan one desert trip that will never been able to be beaten, and the usual travelled tracks across the Simpson today are a piece of cake.

Cheers

Stephen
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