LC 70 series TDV8 tyres
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:25
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Member - bungarra (WA)
G'day all....just ordered my new toy........cant wait !....
interested in feedback from those who have retained the standard tyres that come with the vehicle......I believe them to be Dunlop Grandtreks or something akin to that.....I have always run BFG AT with great ssatisfaction over the years in some very rugged conditions.....rock, stakes etc.nothing is perfect however...everything will succumb sometime
Question:...1. The ORE tyres.........anygood?.....or change ASAP on delivery of vehicle (use is black top to get to the bush, then mostly desert sand or rocky roads and X country...seldom mud...)
Question 2...Someone tried to tell me the speedo is out on these as delivered ex factory with ORE tyres.....difficult to believe, coming from old reliable Toyota
thanks in advance to you all
Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:46
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:46
Goodyear MTRs if available in right size.
Fantastic all rounders if you do reasonable off-road stuff.
Cheers
Muddy
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Reply By: disco driver - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:48
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:48
Hi Bungarra,
ADR's allow for up to 10% variation in speedo reading in all vehicles (including the old reliable toyota) but the indicated speed MUST not be slower than the true speed.
ie:Speedo shows 110kph, real speed 100kph is OK
Speedo shows 110kph, real speed 115kph is a No No.
Not going to start another "which tyre" war.
Ther's plenty of opinions on this
forum (Just type 'tyres' into the search page.)
Don't hold your breath while waiting either.
Disco.
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Reply By: equinox - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 20:51
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 20:51
Those Grandtreks won't last very long on anything other than blacktop or sand though I did make it to QV Spring and
Steep Point on them without a puncture. Get rid of them as soon as you can.
BTW: I have 4 GT with 25k on them and 1 new if anyones interested :))
Cheers
Alan
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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 20:57
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 20:57
Sorry, should have pointed out that I have last years model, but its got the same tyres.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:13
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:13
I've travelled with people running those original Dunlops on the 70series mag
wheels. They are a LT265/70 with a Load Index of 115, which is a bit above average for that size. They have a thin sidewall, so can stake easily. But the tread compound is good - they don't chip. They roll very easily, so the fuel consumption is OK.
If you were to upgrade, then upsize at least to a 265/75R16, where you'll have an infinite choice of Light Truck Tyres. Goodyear MTR or Silent Armour are my preference with whats available today, and your BFG aren't far behind.
The speedos usually overread by 2kph, and if you upsize to 265/75 they are usually spot on or underread by 1-2kph, which is next to nothing.
Unfortunately, you can't upsize them to a 285/75 because the
wheels are only 7 inches wide.
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Follow Up By: prado4x4 - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:49
Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:49
Phil, You're right in that 285/75's shouldn't be on the 7" wide rims of the GXL.
I did see a 79 series in a
carpark recently that got me looking as it was on taller tyres, but with the standard alloy rims. I had a look, and they were BFG 255/85R16 MT's. I checked out the BFG website, and it appears they are ever so slightly larger in dia than the 285/75R16's.
Anyhow thought the info might interest someone who wanted taller rubber, but didn't want to buy new 8" wide rims. Doesn't seem to be an especially common size though.
John
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:17
Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:17
John,
Yep, the 255/85R16 are only available in a couple of brands. BFGMuddies, Cooper ST and I think Maxxis. Being an uncommon size, I've not been willing to go with them for outback travel, so have stuck with the 265/75.
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:38
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:38
bungarra, I have just put 18000ks on my TDV8 trayback (see my member's rig). When the Grandtreks first came out in the early days of the 80 series they got a real bad rap but I decided that Dunlop must have learnt something over the years so I left them on. We towed a caravan back from
Melbourne on some roads very unfriendly towards tyres (
Cordillo Downs,
Bore Track,
Birdsville Track) and they performed faultlessly.
They do have soft sidewalls so, against convention, I kept pressures up over 40 psi to protect the sidewalls. Again, no damage.
These tyres are very expensive to replace so if you are going to get rid of them do it straight away and get maximum dollars but do it for the money, not because they are bad because they ain't.
The speedo over reads by 6% ie if it shows 100kph you are only doing 94. I cross checked with a GPS on the return trip. I use this as built-in protection against multanovas. The odometer is spot on correct.
Use the tyre comparison feature on ExplorOz to find the size that will cancel that 6%. But other posters are correct, the choice will be limited because the rims are 7 inch. Also take off one of your wheel nuts, it has a thick shaft that encompasses the stud and the hole in the wheel is about twice the diameter of the stud.
Personally, I have no regrets in keeping the whole original setup.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:45
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 21:45
Gone Bush
You know what your problem is......... you know how to drive on outback tracks without running over the big rocks , you also must be looking where your going , Unlike equinox who must run over everything possible ,
Well put answer with intelligence
Doug
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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 22:17
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 22:17
"you also must be looking where your going , Unlike equinox who must run over everything possible ,"
That's a pretty unfair implication, which actually isn't true.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 23:15
Thursday, Nov 22, 2007 at 23:15
equinox
Don't take it too hard on the chin old mate, but your statement is very odd , you say you got to to your destination OK , then say get rid of them .....strange comments indeed. anyhow I'm not going to argue the subject for this or that , I have used them a few years ago , No further comments
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Reply By: wilko65 - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 15:02
Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 15:02
I wouldn't worry so much about the type of tyres to run on your new vehicle just yet.
If you do a search of this site you will find that it will more than likely take around 6 months before you have that "Oh What A Feeling". I ordered my 76 gxl wagon in September and have been told late Feb or early March. I think a workmates are available pretty much off the shelf.
Good luck
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Reply By: Member - bill - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 17:15
Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 17:15
i changed
wheels and tyres as i did not like how it seem to wander about to much it handles much better with 100 series
wheels and stt coopers
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:27
Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:27
Thanks to all...comments appreciated....I have noted the sidewall issue and the speedometer
most likely change to my faithfull BFG........a lot of the enjoyment in bush travel is the piece of mind being familar with what you are doing and secure in the knowledge that you have the best gear (in your own opinion) to suit the conditions and are prepared .........if you are wary or nervous..Sh*t happens
in summary everyone is right if you look at their perspective and experiences.........
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