half-inch socket attachment for limiting torque?

Submitted: Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:05
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I have read that the rattle guns used by tyre places often have a gizmo between the drive output and the socket, which limits the amount of torque the rattle gun can exert on the wheel nuts.

I figure that if there is such a gizmo, it would be a useful addition to the Shentai torque wrench I use. These Shentai units have the potential to easily snap a wheel stud if misused.

Does anybody know if such an attachment exists and if so, what is it known as? I've googled a few things I thought it might be called and came up with zip.

Cheers and thanks in advance for any assistance.

Roachie
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:19

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:19
No idea but I did see a nice looking Torque wrench on special today for $79 at ATI tools on Port Wakefield road near the Slat pans there.....

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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:19

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:19
Salt pans!!!
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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 23:00

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 23:00
got mine for $50, it goes well
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Follow Up By: Mamba No 1 - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 13:04

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 13:04
Can u get me one Nick? I can pick it up.
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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 18:35

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 18:35
Where are you mamba?
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Follow Up By: Mamba No 1 - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 18:39

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 18:39
SW Vic
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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:44

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:44
anywhere near Timboon?
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Follow Up By: Mamba No 1 - Sunday, Nov 25, 2007 at 17:55

Sunday, Nov 25, 2007 at 17:55
Near enough
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Sunday, Nov 25, 2007 at 18:07

Sunday, Nov 25, 2007 at 18:07
I was actually talking about a manual Torque wrench that I saw. Not a Shentai unit.

I was meaning that it would be a good idea to use the Shentai to undo the nuts and to whir them back on again but then use an actual Torque wrench to get the right pressure on.

This place had a whole range from $40 cheapies to over $400. The one for $79 was reduced on special from $129 and looked a good size to whack in the tool kit for just this job.

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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 25, 2007 at 18:22

Sunday, Nov 25, 2007 at 18:22
Muddy, Mine is probably a $40 cheapie priced at $49.95 in at Timboon Fuel, the people there have everything, from strawberries to horse feed and tools galore......
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Follow Up By: Mamba No 1 - Monday, Nov 26, 2007 at 20:35

Monday, Nov 26, 2007 at 20:35
Might call past there next time and ask for the NickR special
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Reply By: nowimnumberone - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:33

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:33
you can buy them at any repco ect.
they are just a socket that are preset to a certain torque.
to many bourbys to remeber what there called but repco ect will know what your after.
normaly only come in a few sizes that fit most common wheel nuts.
17-19-21 mm
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:35

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:35
They are called 'torque extensions'.
Different colours signify different tensions, see the link ......
Torque Extensions HERE
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:51

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:51
Thanks Shaker......that's exactly the sort of gizmo I was after......
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Reply By: Angler - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:39

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 22:39
I read somewhere that if these are used for undoing the nuts they are no longer calibrated and considered useless.

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Reply By: splits - Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 23:46

Friday, Nov 23, 2007 at 23:46
Whatever you buy make sure it is accurate. A couple of years ago I bought an old Warren and Brown tension wrench at a second hand for store for $25. I took it to a Sydney company called Torque Calibrations Pty Ltd and had it overhauled and adjusted for $50. They sell for over $250 new. It was accurate to within 1 foot pound on their digital testing equipment. I now keep it permanently in my car, wrapped in thin rubber mat inside a cardboard tube, and use it every time I change a wheel.

I often woinder about those rattle guns at tyre services. My Hilux owners manual lists the wheel nut tension at 76 foot pounds for the 4X4 but 101 for the 2WD. I am sure most other cars would have different tensions. The tyre shop rattle guns seem to have a one tension fits all setting.

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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 00:57

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 00:57
You will likely find that the different torque relates to alloy/steel and also stud size.
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Follow Up By: splits - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 01:37

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 01:37
You could be right although both models come with steel and alloy wheels but the book only gives one tension for each one and does not mention different types of wheels.

I just mentioned those tensions to show there can be a wide variation between different cars and you should know what yours is and make sure you get it right.

It is the tyre services that you have to watch though. I have never seen onyone adjust a gun when going from one car to another. I have actually seen them snap studs off and I have even had to replace a few axles on customers's cars after tyre services had over-tightened the wheel nuts and buckled the flanges.

This has been on small cars like early Corollas, not heavy 4x4s.

Brian
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Reply By: Ross H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 04:30

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 04:30
Hi Roachie
You will find if you put any type of extention onto an impact gun it will decrease the torque out put of the gun. Those extentions you are talking about would be for pneumatic rattle guns capable of at least 500 ft/lb or more but then those guns will have several adjustable setting as well. Not sure about the 12v one as to the torque output but wouldn't think it would be as much as the air ones. As for correct tension I wouldn't think anything hooked up to rattle gun would be acurrate for long (it would flog it to death).
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Follow Up By: Ross H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 04:58

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 04:58
Should read
Not sure about the 12v one as to the torque output but wouldn't think it wouldn't be as much as the air ones.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:34

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:34
You are correct about extensions limiting torque - I tried using my Supercheap combo of rattle gun and compressor to remove the manifold flange nuts on the Jackaroo, which required a long plus short extension, and the damn thing wouldn't budge - great, now I was in a pickle. But my Shentai came to the rescue - even with the 2 extensions, this little baby virtually ripped the nuts off

The Shentai puts out 340nm of torque.

It also easily removes diff pinoin nuts...and it can easily snap a wheel stud.

When I use mine to tighten wheel nuts, I first use the small tool from the car and tighten the nuts by hand, then give them a couple of whacks (but no more) with the Shentai.
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Follow Up By: ob - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:35

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:35
pneumatic impact(rattle guns) great for removing wheel nuts should not be used to tighten, if you cant judge how tight is enough buy a torque wrench

cheers
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Reply By: mechpete - Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:00

Saturday, Nov 24, 2007 at 20:00
roachie ,
We have a set of the articles in question they are in effect a 6in extension with a socket ,all one piece and the tension is determined by the shaft diameter , ie,when the torque is reached they just flex minutely ,the thicker the shaft the higher the torque .
mechpete
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