Telstra and ZTE Phone

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:17
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ZTE Phone LCD stopped working while I was in Adelaide & Telstra was no help, weren't even interested, just gave me a few numbers to call which didn't connect. Later that night I got on to ZTE who informed me that I would need the original receipt to make a warranty claim. O course everyone always carries their 2 A4 pages of receipt with them don't they! Bought a cheap phone and stuck the Nextg simm in and it works on the GSM band only. Got home and dug out the receipt and rang ZTE only to find that the phone is 13 months old and only had a 12 month warranty! Rang Telstra for help and they offered no renew my contract for another 24 months on the same plan with a new phone with an additional $33 dollars a month to pay out the old plan ($3 a month more than the old plan).After I finish spitting chips I think I'll be rejoining an HF group and cranking up the old transceiver before we go to Kangaroo Island. Funny how it was a "Telstra" phone until it broke down and then it was a "ZTE", how do they make it do that? ;-)
Doug
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:41

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:41
yep my missus got the same short shrift when here phone buggered up.
I think they were just replacing them because they knew they were crap. however the flood of phones now means you get a
nah never seen one of them die before here ring this number and they will send a bag out for you to send it off in.
And no we have no replacement phone for you and no we arnt going to not charge you for the time you dont have our crap phone
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Reply By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:55

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 11:55
Our ZTE was bought because next G was DA DA... " The Answer".
Set out on our 8 month trip via back roads and no capital cities. Phone batery failed straight away - very short life - forever to charge. No Teltra shops in bush town/cities - must go to capital city to visit Telstra Shop. 6 Months later discover the batteries were in short supply - eventually had one posted to us. But very little interest from anyone in the system.
Discovered too just how little of the bush was actually Next G'd at that time (mid 2007) - despite the hype.

Just had Telstra man here to fix land line --- different story -- fast and friendly service - and fixed the problem!!

Cheers Chris
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Reply By: Member - Cruiser (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:03

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:03
Been there , done that.

Lots of jumping up and down at a Telstra Country Wide office and 10 days later, the phone was replaced with a new one. Since then, no problems (touch wood)

Jump up and down, rant. rave and threaten Fair trading, A Current Affair, John Laws and any media that will listen.

I told then my niece was an executive producer on ACA and that they were interested in doing a story on this matter. Guess what, new phone.

Cheers,

Cruiser
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Reply By: Scoof - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:22

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:22
Yeh had the same problem withTelstra. Telstra gave my friend the ZTE number to call , but phone was 13 months old and out of 12 month warranty.So out of luck.
He started haveing trouble before 12 months was up because he bought a new battery thinking that the battery had died.How do you prove that now.

The chargeing attachment on the phone is faulty so can't charge the phone.
Telstra gave him that phone when he had to change from CDMA why should Telstra give you the run around.

It has Telstra printed on it OK for them to put their name on it but if something is wrong don't want to know about it.

Scoof
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 16:37

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 16:37
thats exactly what was wron with the missus phone
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Reply By: AdlelaideGeorge - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 13:31

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 13:31
Please go to this ACCC site for easy to read information on the TPA and your rights (if it's a Constitutional corporation - Fair Trading people in your state if it's not):
http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/3863

specifically this:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx
Seeking a refund
To seek a refund you:
• should return the goods in a reasonable time
after buying them and you must not lose, destroy
or damage them
• may be asked to provide proof of purchase—
the best way to do this is to show your store receipt
or credit card or bank statement which shows details
of the purchase.
You have the right to seek a refund irrespective of
whether you have proof of purchase. In practice, however,
it is easier for you to seek a refund if proof of purchase
can be supplied to the retailer, supplier or manufacturer.

xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Demanding a receipt is not lawful although they have a right to know they sold it-you didn't buy it from abroad for example. There are usually lots of ways to ensure it was sold by them in Australia.
Know your rights - the law is their to help you

Happy days
George
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Reply By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 13:55

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 13:55
previous ZTE165 thread:Telstra ZTE165 Country Wide phone

They are cheap chinese phones
made for a low price, not reliability





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Reply By: obee - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:38

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:38
People still deal with Telstra?

unbeleivable
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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:47

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:47
OK but could anyone recommend a 'good' outlet - how about Myers? David Jones? Their after sales service is usually excellent but do they sell (say) Samsung 412/411's??????

Happy days

George
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Follow Up By: Member - Douglas M (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:51

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:51
Try using your "non Telstra" service where I live and see how you get on. It's still a monopoly in spite of the "competition".
Doug
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 20:00

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 20:00
Hooraa Doug,
We dont get a choice out here, only service in the country areas is telstra, and they know it.
Local dealer wont even sell you a telstra branded phone.
Mate has just bought a 158, its a tradesman ph, heavy duty and robust, and it looks good f our type of work, but it has that telstra brand on it !!!
I need to upgrade 5 units and am very happy with my nokia cdma units, real bastard that i have to change, so have been giving the "telstra" sales callers a hard time, one asked me the other day what i was using, and then we got into a discusion about my choices, and i wanted to know how come we have 24 month contracts and only 12 month warranty?
Couldnt answer that.
I also asked who made the telstra phones she was trying to push down my neck, and she said telstra!!.
I educated her about how telstra dont make phones, and then she told me they are made by nokia !!!!!!
I had to educate her again hahaha
So am still looking for a decent rural phone and running out of time, despite the threads that have been on here saying that it will not happen at the end of january.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: AdlelaideGeorge - Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:50

Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:50
The issue of the manufacturers 'warranty' is a common one-the statutory warranties are not time-bounded. If the manufacturer chooses to give a warranty that's fine - but they must live up to it.
The statutory warranty under the TPA is (in part):

• The goods must be of merchantable quality.
This means that they must meet a basic level
of quality and performance that would be
reasonable to expect, considering their price
and the manner in which they are described
(ss. 71(1) and 66(2)).
For example, a shoe should not lose a
heel the fi rst time it is worn, and a new car
should not have rust. However, a loose
door handle on a car may not make the car
unmerchantable.
• The goods must be fi t for their purpose.
This means that they must be suitable for
any particular purpose the consumer made
known to the supplier when negotiating or
arranging to buy them, or a purpose that is
obvious from the circumstances in which the
sale took place (s. 71(2)).
For example, if a consumer tells sales staff
that they are buying tiles for an outdoor patio
and less durable indoor tiles are supplied,
the goods may not be fi t for their purpose.

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So the 12 month manufactuers warranty for a phone is virtually irrelevant to the extent that the question is: 'is a (say) $400 phone that lasts (say) 13 months 'fit for the purpose or of 'merchantable quality'?

Personally I don't think so (I'm sick of being sold products that have obviously never had a long enough or any time in field testing before being put into the market-these multi nationals are using consumers as tests!) but the point is if you don't think so know your rights and don't be put off by: "sorry sir-its 30 nano -seconds out of warranty!"

Happy days

George
PS - hope all this is not boring you to death but its important.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:08

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:08
Doug,

May be cheaper to leave your current contract "as is" and buy something like a Nokia 6120 outright, then insert your NextG sim.

I am rather partial to the Nokia phones, having had a few over the years and they have always been good performers.

Bill


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Reply By: Bongo (Darwin NT) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 19:07

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 19:07
I have 2 ZTE NextG phones. Both of the operating systems on the phones keep crashing. Like Windoze I have to turn them off and then back on again.

I was also having drop outs so rang them to give them feedback that my service was not as good as it was when I was on CDMA.

The next day a tech rang to clarify the problem and said there was a software error causing interference between the 2 networks and it will be fixed.

Two weeks later Telstra called asking to find out if the problem had been resolved. I said no and that I was not happy with the service compared to CDMA in my area of Darwin's Northern Suburbs. She asked what handset I was using. She said the handset was an A series and I needed an S series (or the other way around). I asked what do I do. She said I would be contacted in the next 2 to 10 days to find out how I can take delivery of 2 free replacement phones that would work in this area. I will let you guys know when they come through with the promise.
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Follow Up By: Member - Douglas M (SA) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 20:04

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 20:04
Hi Bongo
It will be good to know what sort of phones you get and how good your coverage is.
Doug
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Follow Up By: Bongo (Darwin NT) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 23:33

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 23:33
I'll keep you posted when the phones arrive.
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Reply By: Garbutt - Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:11

Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:11
I had a ZTE850, no good, short battery life, plays trick like turning itself off etc. I went to local telstra Dealer, not a Telstra Shop as such, and complained about it. They arranged to cancel my existing contract, I then signed a new 2 year contract on same plan and got a new Nokia 6120 free. One happy customer (now) anyway, but my ZTE was less than 12 months old.

GB
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