Gas Guzzling 4wdrives

I'm with you, stay away from all the smelly city's. :-)

"stay away from all the smelly city's"

Ha ha, I like the irony.

:)

As with any new technology, resource requirements are always greater when they first come out. Once they gain public acceptance and fall into mass production they become much more efficient to produce.

I agree with you they are much more suited to inner city driving, where our cars often spend more time idling at lights than actually driving. The benefit with electric cars here is they are most efficient at take-off, and don't need to be 'running' to achieve immediate response.

As for the production of hydrogen, there are many 'greener' ways to produce the electricity required, and the upside is that hydrogen can store that energy. This means that solar and wind generation is more suitable because you don't necessarily need peak production at the same time as there is peak demand. The downside is there needs to be significant demand (read social acceptance) before these production plants become economically viable.

I have also read the report you talk about, and I believe it was sourced from America, can't remember exactly though. It made some assumptions about battery life etc in the Prius that are still to be proven. I think the Prius is now approaching the 10year age that the batteries are supposed to last, and they haven't had to do a heck of a lot of replacements yet. So be wary what reports you read, and what assumptions they make.

Probably the biggest adjustment to the 'green-ness' of your car is the way you drive it. A little less right boot can go a long way.

green” means only shifting pollution
oot on its as stupid as those proclaiming biofeuls to be enviornentally freindly it couldnt be further than the truth

....or (consider getting rid of) the 'gas guzzling 4wd' if yours happens to be one such beast. Of course many (mostly the more modern) 4 wds are highly engineered with very sophisticated engine and fuel management systemsand and are considered more suitable and relevant to the times we live in.

Nope, I would rather rid of citycouncils if I have a choice. Even if you personally dislike someone’s 4WD it does not means that everyone dislike it also. But tell me what is use of citycouncils whatsoever? I fail to se them doing *ANYTING* useful except of collecting rubbish (in fact it is rubbish collecting company collect it – not citycouncil). Oh, but they collect money for parking and never fix those curbs what damage any wheel size smaller than 33”. And yes, I have to pay them for permit for my extension. And as far as I can see only and only one reason for me to pay for this permit is to notify my council that they can lift my rates! In effect I am paying them for them to charge me more!
Nop, I would rather preserve my 4WD and rid of citycouncil. Pity earlier or later it would be other way around.
Serg.

Dio,
My 4wd sits in the garage Mon-Fri and comes out on weekends only......4wheel version of a trailbike,
My gas guzzling 4x4 is late model on LPG and always kept in good nic so I have no green conscious. But honestly as KSV said 'what do local councils do'?

On that note ..it's be interesting to see what vehicles are being used to ferry the bofins and polies around in over on Bali at the Climate Change shebang.

Let's just all enjoy the freedom that we now have, in another 20 years most of the roads to anywhere remotely interesting in Australian wil be sealed and Our time will be the "olden days".
We really are very fortunate to be able to see some parts of the Country like Lawson did.

looks like its okay to sh-tcan the previous coalition government on this site but dont dare post anything bad about KEVIN 07 because your comment will be removed.let me guess the theme song for this site. WORKERS UNITED WE WILL NEVER BE DEFETED.

Felix,

LOL just substitute Rudd, Swan, Albanese, Crean, Gillard etc etc and it's the same. Phil is just displaying his political bias again.