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Hi Daza
Remember in the lead up to the election Kevin Rudd was talking about sending in the Navy and boarding the whaling fleet ships! It will indeed be interesting to watch what happens in 'Real Life'! My opinion, for what it is worth, is that we will do nothing as a Nation except issue the usual diplomatic statement, Australia regrets etc.... etc.
Regards
Brian

I think part of the issue is that the "Australian waters" are only officially recognised by Australia and not by the international community.

In my humble opinion Australia alone can do absolutely nothing about this disgusting matter. Those animals have to grow 20-something years before they can give birth and they only can raise a single calf once per 3 years! They can be vanished from Earth with blink of an eye and this is exactly what bl00dy Japanese and Norwegian trying to do. Do you like hear it or not, but until Uncle Sam from president level lead very strict boycott of Japanese on this matter nothing going to happens.

PS even all of us sells out sheetmetal to Japwrecks it will make no difference because government still will buy them. Even if Australia totally stop buying Japan car, no-one even notice this – our market is nothing, absolutely nothing in global scale.

Try this link to add your micro cents worth to the issue , I did,

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I think the whaling fleet would make good target practice for our newish submarines.

The Japanese have a stockpile of whale meat they cannot consume.
The youngsters do not even like the taste.

Sink the bastards!

The thing that gets me is the whale meat industry in Japan was dropping. People weren't buying the meat. So the whaling industry spent a huge amount of money advertising whale meat.

It seems not many people in Japan would miss whaling, except the industry itself.

All of this talk about it being a national dish etc. is rubbish when the industry is required to push its product to sell it.

They can buy some more of our cattle if they want.

Barnesy

The thing that gets me is the whale meat industry in Japan was dropping. People weren't buying the meat. So the whaling industry spent a huge amount of money advertising whale meat.

It seems not many people in Japan would miss whaling, except the industry itself.

All of this talk about it being a national dish etc. is rubbish when the industry is required to push its product to sell it.

They can buy some more of our cattle if they want.

Barnesy

Try this anti-whaling website. Includes a petition. They have to be stopped.

http://www.whalesrevenge.com/

YAWN - the Japs etc will keep doing it because NO ONE has the balls to stop them.

Can you take this whinging to a more suitable site.

Hi Daza

I've always wondered why some consider it acceptable to kill roo's , cattle and sheep and not whales.

For the point of the discussion the Japs do not accept that any of these species are endangered, any many other places consider Roo's as endangered.
There will be different views on these point - but accepting that.

Why cannot whales be harvested as are many other species ?

I'm vegetartian so I don't have this conflict , but I wonder how others resolve this issue ?

Robin Miller

Nah, I agree - it's totally deplorable to think that they can still in today's age get away with slatter under the guize of "scientific research". I have never labelled myself either as Greenie, Tree Hugger or God Botherer) to borrow Daza words but there is no denying that some acts today surprise me and I'm starting to want to speak up more when things I disagree with are let to pass because we as a world, or community have not complained enough. My kids and I actually stood dumb-founded in front of the tele when we saw the News a few weeks back when the whalers left Japan and had the great send off. A sad day indeed and I can't believe I saw it in 2007! But then last night I watched a late show on the ABC about he 60s documenting this as the first generation that bothered to stand up and protest when they had something to say. Was that all for nothing if now just 40 years later we are too busy or too apathetic to have our say? Do we really trust our pollies to do what's right for the future generations or just for their shortterm political future? The protests of the 60s did change the world, so why not vote with our voices again and let our opionions be heard on matters that are important to our world - be it climate change, wildlife preservation or whatever. As people who love to ExplorOz - our platform is indeed relevant to discuss issues that affect us in our day to day, or recreational pursuits. Whaling our waters does indeed affect us - maybe just not as obvious as fuel prices! Save the koala, save our forrests, save the whale, save Ningaloo, save Leighton Beach etc! I'm with you Daza!

It's simple, stop importing Japanesse vehicles into Europe, America and Australia and Im sure the whaling thing will stop pretty quickly.

All you would have to do is stop importing vehicles for a week and they would soon get it.

What about the live sheep trade, stoning and rape of women, political prisioners and take a look at our goverment...placing a curfew on David Hick a person how was charged with an offence before it was an offence.

The more I understand goverments the more I hate them!

Regards Richard

Walk around with a spear gun - when you see a Japanese person , spear them - then tell the Authorities its just research ...... and you will cease all research when you have discovered what you need to know --- its up to you what you do with the meat :)

But in all seriousness - if they do it in our waters , why doesn't our coast guard or navy intervene?

Boc

Daza,
Without wishing to upset you because of your beliefs,I have to say that I doubt if any Aussie will actually do anything. And thats from the new PM down to the bloke in the street.

There are too many dollars/yen flowing between the two countries for us to just simply "punch" Japan in the nose. They will then accuse us of eating and slaughtering kangaroos. Which they have done in the past.
Can you imagine the reaction from our farmers? All that beef and lamb and nowhere to send it.The boycott of Japanese cars etc would last all of five minutes.

And for those forumites advocating sending gunships,thats a very easy comment to make. Whats the old saying,"dont watch what I do,just do as I say"

Jim

Here's the response I received from Toyota when I took it up with them on the basis of their "Guiding Principles and Earth Charter". Clearly these are just rhetoric and do not guide Toyota who has no corporate conscience and will hide behind "their" government.

They will not be able to do this for long.

I encourage all Toyota customers to complain to Toyota (and Nissan to Nissan and Mitsubishi to Mitsubishi) about the fact that they have no corporate position on this and no corporate backbone willing to make a public statement that this is unacceptable.

In my case it is a consideration when deciding on future fleet vehicles.

Dear Carlos is probably still taking it up with the "International Whaling Foundation" (sic) rather than raising any ructions in Toyota Corporation.

This was Toyota Complaint number 27012740. I quote:

Dear Mr Weller,

Thank you for your email received on 13 Mach 2007 by our Customer Relations Department and please accept our apologies for the delay in responding to you.

Our view is that this is a matter that needs to be dealt with through the Japanese Government and the International Whaling Foundation. Toyota's principles regarding the environment and society are clear in the Guiding Principles and Earth Charter that are referred to in the letter of inquiry.

Thank you for writing to Toyota and allowing us the opportunity to respond to your concerns.

Regards,



Carlos De Azevedo
Senior Customer Relations Advisor
Customer Relations Centre
Toyota Motor Corporation Australia Limited

Maybe we should hunt some whales and eat them too

Why not? We eat everything else. What is so different between a cuddly kangaroo and a cuddly whale?

Thanks for all your comments everbody, very interesting, I have been
on a few whale watch trips in Hervey Bay, on several occassions, and
find it pleasing to see them come right up to our boat, and turn
slightly on there side, and see there eyes looking at you,
you get the feeling that they can communicate with the waving of
there fin and I FEEL PLEASED THAT MY GRAND KIDS HAVE SEEN THEM BECAUSE THEIRS WONT.

Daza