Van length - what is too big for van parks?

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 19:13
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Hello

I'm looking at a few vans - 20'6", 21'6" and 22'4" long. I've been told that anything over 20'6" will limit the number of van parks I can get into. Has anyone with a large van had problems?

regards

John
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Reply By: 96 GXL 80 series - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 19:23

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 19:23
How long is a piece of string?

There are that many varying length caravans about, so most or should I say nearly all cater for all that turn up.

you would be pretty right as long as you pay your rent.

safe travelling
96
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Follow Up By: dave_c - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:05

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:05
96,

What size van have you got?.

You talking on experience or are you just bored? Get real
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Follow Up By: 96 GXL 80 series - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:35

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:35
Dave_c
we have been there and done that, why what has it to do with you anyway?

jdbb, was asking the question.

and I see he is getting the right answers.
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Reply By: Member - steve H (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 19:32

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 19:32
If you ring to make a booking, always include the total length including the draw bar. Most parks (mainly council) measure their sites from the rear of the site to the roadway. My wife and son come across this problem all the time at their park

Steve
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Reply By: Member Boroma 604 - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:09

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:09
Gooday,
We have a 21ft & never had any trouble, some sites can be a bit of a squeeze.
Personally I would be reluctant to go much over 22 ft, if you need more room than that you might as well fly or drive to your destination & go to Hotel or Motel.
There are plenty of larger ones about, but it's an individual thing in the end. Just beware of your Tare weight B4 you put anything in it, and what your Tow Vehicle is capable of. Don't take the sales Rep for Gospel.
Cheers,
Boroma604
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Reply By: Steve Ellis - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:16

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:16
GDay jdbb. I cant speak about van park problems with large vans as ours is 17.5 ft but I tow a 20ft+ catering van for our Lions Club and there are lots of issues with big vans behind even large 4wds. The first is probably weight and the big van weighs close to 3 tonnes with all the gear in it. The next is shear bulk, it seems to be about twice as big as our 17ft van. Next is height. You need to be so careful under trees etc. I believe if you dont need a big van dont get one. I tow it with a petrol / gas patrol with plenty of power and it certainly knows the big van is on the back esp. on a hot day. I had a earlier model landcruiser and patrol they were no better. We have had a number of vans over the years and about 16 - 17ft seems to be the most popular. Look around your local van park. All the big vans are set up as permanents. They are simply too big to tow with anything less than a truck. If you own an oil company outright go for it.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:30

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:30
Hi All

We have a 21ft Off Road Van our main problem is over hanging trees,
we also have had a few tight places to park, but hey take your time
and walk around the site and check your options before you commit your self to parking it. most caravan park owners and employees,are
only to happy to assist.

Cheers
Daza
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Reply By: lifeisgood - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:44

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:44
Perhaps not a huge (pun) problem in off season but picture school holidays on the popular east coast or even up north in winter. Most sites filled already. Narrow road between van rows. Cars parked near vans and the roadway. You have to back it into the last site - between other big vans.
Its great entertainment to watch the cursing couple trying to back it in? But a bit stressful and embarrasing for them it seems.

And as said - watch out for those overhanging trees everywhere.
Bigger is certainly not always better. Unless you are weeks/months at the one site.
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Follow Up By: Bongo (Darwin NT) - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:13

Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:13
I had an old Franklin; 29 foot from bumper to tow hitch. A real B to tow. I'm glad I now have my little Trackabout camper.

I took the Franklin to Stansbury caravan park; it is tight as during Christmas holidays.Well I parked it first go without any shunting backwards or forwards; no drive through sites there. It was perfect!

The guy in the next site was shocked. He was expecting to be entertained. He said I was a legend and that he had never seen such precision caravan reversing. My head started to swell but was deflated when SWMBO said, he been practising at home all week.

Thanks dear you could have left me as being a legend.
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Reply By: 96 GXL 80 series - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:53

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 20:53
jdbb,
also a lot of parks cater for the over nighter and have a drive through set up, so if you don't have to, is un hook your van.

Makes it easy for the travellers and ones that are not used to backing into caravan bays.

You can also check with the parks when booking.
Cheers
96

FYI we had a 30ft Chesney Sheraton years ago and towed it up and down the east coast of Aus.
We had a new van built in Melbourne and was a tri axel, it had shower / separate toilet reverse cycle air con rear bunks for 3, main bed Lounge and front kitchen, it was 38ft cabin size and we towed it across to Perth from Melbourne, where we sold it at Mandurah and built.

Being in the building trade I helped from the ground up build a mobile home / caravan park in Melbourne at Frankston.
I was the main building contractor.

it was on the corner of Sky road and Mclelland dve in Frankston.
Called the Log Cabin Caravan Park.

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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:13

Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:13
Geez mate, 30 ft !
Wouldnt it have been easier to put your house onto a low loader, hook up a KW or Mack.....home away from home.....lol.

Im sure your mate Doug would be happy to pilot for you...hehehe.

Cheers....Lionel.
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Reply By: TD100 - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 21:27

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 21:27
jdbb,

i found it odd that i was asked this year by a park in southport QLD how long my van was?told them 18'4"-- yeh that will be OK was the response.previously we had a 22' franklin and never had park issues or had been asked how long it was.cheers Paul
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Reply By: JimDi - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 21:33

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 21:33
Have had a 22ft,and now own a 19ft 6" internal. Not sure what the metric equivalents are.
Main problems I experienced was confusion after pre booking about actual length. We found a few park employees had just booked a site for us without taking into account our actual size.

But a site inspection prior to trying to park will reveal all. Most problems we ever had occurred with our camper trailers. For some reason we were always shoved down the back somewhere,even though we were paying full fees ie; powered site.
But we soon got over that con and demanded a powered site with concrete pad and so on if they were available.
Jim
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Reply By: jdbb - Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 22:18

Wednesday, Dec 12, 2007 at 22:18
Thank you all for your replies.

I have spent the evening talking vans with a friend who returned home this week after a ten month lap. His van is 19'6" and had no problems. Other vans travelling with him were larger - at some parks they had to park in different areas but never were refused a site. He did say however that there was a park on the Gold Coast that a bigger van would not get into.

I might end up with the 20'6" option. Well within the capabilities of the LC100TD and it has the creature comforts that I've grown accostomed to.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 00:48

Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 00:48
Hi jdbb,
One of the problems with longer vans is the rear overhang behind the rear set of wheels.

The worst offenders IMHO are the European type vans (Geist etc). These vans also have trouble hanging the arse end on high kerbs and sloping driveways.

Quite a few caravan parks have the grassed/paved sites a bit higher than the roadways in the park. I understand that this is for drainage purposes.

Getting into some of these areas makes you thankful for those little roller wheels on the back of the van.

Big(long) offroad vans are a bit higher and don't appear to have the same troubles getting in ansd out of sites

On an entirely different track, what with the major increases in Shire rates and charges, you can understand the park owner only allowing the absolute minimum space for each van to maximise the profit margin to stay in business, doesn't help with a big van either.

Disco.
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:15

Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:15
We dont use c/van parks much but on the occassions that we do we always ask for a " large " site with a min width of 20ft and min length of 30ft , and thats for the c/trailer !!! is 21ft x 14ft under canvas , never yet had a problem.
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Reply By: johnjdh - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:27

Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:27
My wife and I have only just completed our trip around OZ in our camper trailer which when opened out is approx 9 metres or the good old 27 feet long. We have had no trouble to get into caravan parks. They can usually find a spot. Usually phone ahead to check is the best bet. So measure the overall length of the van plus the draw bar. This day and age some of the 5th wheeler caravans are much longer than the van that you are considering.
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