Rudall River NP - Appetite whetter

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 11:11
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I've just been looking at few of the members photos and saw a couple covering west of Rudall River NP. This is great country.

In the west of the park (perhaps just outside the park) is Hanging Rock (see phot on rig page - a good camp but no cover) followed by the area known as Meeting Gorge.

Beyond that you are well and truly on your own as you follow a sometimes indistinct track out a further 60km to Christie Crossing on Balfour Downs.

Apart from the oasis of Desert Queen pools, we found the best campsite with water was Tjingkulatjarra water hole ("Jarra" for short). Nearby are several other good spots along the river but Jarra is the pick - shaded, small enough for just one group of maximum four vehicles, good drinking water (my opinion), lots of birdlife - but no wood for fires.

The track west is easily found near Jarra and is a fairly easy run across mostly open country. But there are 3 very sandy dry river crossings which have trapped the unwary (yep me). Past meeting Gorge is Tchukardine water hole. This may be dry. Add your notes to the glass jar recording various visitors. You can camp here under low shade trees. Immediately west of here you hit a km or so of large sharp rock. At various points the track becomes very indistinct and you will a one place be pushing down 180cm high scrub for perhaps the best part of 2-3km.

This track also takes you around beautiful Mericambee Hills and across the still intact rabbit fence.CHristie Crossing is on the Oakover River which may have some water. (good camp spots) But good water is available from the nearby bore.

Met only one group during the 4-5 days we were west of Jarrah. There were groups each day from Jarrah through to Desert Queen in June/July 2007. Several were taking side trips off the CSR.

We enter from the Talawanna along the disused SW/NE track. Over grown but interesting and alone - no corrugations. Many camels.

Ahh enough. I'll just sit here in Jervis Bay a little longer.

Cheers
Chris
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:33

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:33
Hi Chris ,
We did the trip west from Rudal to Christies Crossing a couple of years ago . Like you , we lost the track heaps of times and like you , two of our number needed help with the sandy creek crossings .

There was a bit of aboriginal art in a jump up near Hanging Rock . Most of the cave had been filled in by drifting sand , but we dug it out . A lot of art in the area if you look for it .

A great part of the country .

Jervis Bay is a pretty good spot too . I spent many weekends there as a young fella - live baiting for tuna , kingfish and the odd marlin .

Cheers ,

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:00

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:00
HI Willie, I carry bit too much stuff in the troopie and have standard drooping suspension. Missed the artwork - disappointed at that - searched high and low inside hanging rock and at the small rock hole some 20 km earlier (lost its name).

Jervis bay has been family home since early last century when navy base was being built. I've been back just the last 8-9 years and now selling one of those 'ordinary house in best position' places on the beach at Vincentia near Huskisson.

I remember in the 50s haing to step over the kingfish and other large species caught off the JB breakwater.

Went for a walk a few days ago into an amazing blck doughnut of bait fish - probably a large bitey eyeing me off!!

Today the black cockatoos are stripping the banksias along the shore and keeping the tourists clicking.

Best regards

Chris
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 13:47

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 13:47
Chris,

Hmmm I must've been blind at that stage. I couldn't find the track to Meeting Gorge in 2005. It disappeared into the scrub. I also had no good Coopers on at the time and didn't want to risk even more punctures.

It was extremely dry in April 2005. The hundreds of camels had fouled up most of the water holes. We found a reasonable campsite a short way east of 'Jarra' which we shared with a Brown Snake. Had the entire park to ourselves for a week. Did all the tracks around the park and came in on the seldom used back track from Cotton Creek after getting special permission to do so.

Have plans to explore Meeting Gorge and other sights in 2009 if fuel is still available.....lol

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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 16:49

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 16:49
There's been a fire through - maybe since 2005 Willem - not sure. Track west from Jarrah is easily found and takes you in seemingly wrong direction (according to Tracks4Aust GPS map). But if you stick with it, it eventually joins up with east west track shown on some maps. Very straight forward now - but it had us back-tracking a while.

The large Hema map shows two tracks heading to Bocrabee Hills. They part company on a broad grassed floodplain surrounded by low mulga. The track west seemed to be the main track. Unfortunately it is heavily cratered by cattle - deep mud now solidified. The track north-west departs the main track about 300metres after you leave the mulga and enter grassland. It was difficult to find - you had to know to look for any trace - but once on it you're fine. IAfter a km, it winds and twists its way through dense scrub for maybe 3 to 4 km.

This stuff is genuinely 1.8m high on the bull bar as you push it over - you're guided by the larger bushes on each side and occasional glimpses of wheel ruts.

We couldn't raise Cotton Ck on this trip (tried via VKS737). But know they will supply Diesel ($3 litre Jul 2007). WE wanted other supplies so had to return. Tyres were a limiting aspect on this trip - started to run low on patches - simply would not stick due mainly to crappy tubes and increasingly cranky owner. Should have bought the right stuff at the start.

Have a great trip out there.

Cheers
Chris
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 18:48

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 18:48
Thanks for the update, Chris.

I now have the 'right' tyres at last so will go have a look next time I am up that way. Hoping to spend 3 months just exploring. Wanted to get into remote places further north as well but now see that indigenes have had a successful native title claim over those areas so I will look see what transpires when the time comes.

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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 13:50

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 13:50
Hi Chris,
Sounds like I might have to do this one again but thru that western track.
Went there about 4 years ago, but fuel limited us a bit - didn't realise we could get fuel at Cotton Creek. We came in from the south and headed north thru the park and across NW to Nifty and Woody Woody before staying at Carrawine Gorge and Running Waters. Jarra was nice, and we had the place to ourselves. Managed to find a bit of firewood in the river bed upstream. Quite an interesting run thru the Great Sandy to Nifty; rain earlier made the place quite green, and a normally dry lake was full of fresh (muddy) water. Lots of camels.
cheers, Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:09

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:09
HI Gerry
That would be something to see it after good rain. Had considered your Nifty travels but had earlier come down the Kidson - so would be doing yet more circles. Next time..

Since you are over there (NV) you could give the Christie Crossing to Skull Springs track a try. Apparently it requires a bit of navigation as the tracks are 'approximate postion only'.

Owner permission from Balfour Downs might be the only one required - but not sure. (When I asked, his response was "If you can find it..." It was the only permission I got - but decided against it due the tyre probs and had already travelled extensively in Nullagine - Carrawine areas.

Cheers
Chris
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:15

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:15
Like Chris I was out there this year. I took GPS points manually for the track leading west from Hanging Rock which was hard to follow. If anyone's interested, send a member message and I'll forward them.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:33

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:33
Some track notes.
Reset odometre to zero at Hanging Rock. Follow track south towards range in distance.
3.7 km River (S22.52673 E12163913)
3.9 km crossing river on a diagnal. Track very indistinct due to camel prints (S22.53348 E121.63855)
5.5 km Knoll on left (S22.53348 E12162528)
7.1 km Creek crossing (S22.53656 E121.61127)
7.8 km Tchukardine Pool.

The details are in the "Places" section.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:19

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:19
HI Mick, That range in the south looked so inviting too. There and also the range east of Bocrabee Hills.

Oh for more fuel. more tyres, more food and the knowledge you gaiin from the first adventure. First time through seems like such an adventure.

It was you pics of the area that got me started!! Envious of your Ayres Rk photo particularly.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:31

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:31
Chris, sent you a members message or two wondering if you had a photo of Tchukardine Pool and that camping area. I'm heading back there in Late June. Want to hike up past the Desert Queen Baths into the pound area beyond. There looked to be some more gorges further off to the southwest that could only be reached by foot. Will head out the western route again but venture north from the crossing towards Skull Springs and come out by Woodie Woodie. Got lost trying to come down that way in 2006. I hope to be able to wind my way back across the Gary Junction eventually finishing up at the gathering at Innamincka. Are you heading out again in 08?

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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 06:54

Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 06:54
HI Mick
Dianne and I went over the top route above the pools to get to number three. In fact we overshot by a bit and encountered a couple of other ponds. The climb over is easy and straight forward and it looked interesting further up the valley - but heat, lack of fitness and time got the better of us.

I also tried to come in via Skull Springs road - turn off marked on maps to Davies River is the right track in. High clearance needed as the troopie was dragging its tail at every minor (but relatively deep) gully. For this reason and lack of good supply of GPS batteries (have handheld Garmin only) we gave it away.

Yep I have photo or two of Tchuk... pool will send.

I think 2008 will the year of settling in to yet to be bought house in north of NSW. So doubt travel is on the cards.Innamincka should be great following these rains - which have now been dropping rain for about a month in various parts of the catchment

Hope this reaches the lakes

Best of luck
Chris
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Reply By: equinox - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 23:05

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 23:05
Hi Chris,

I camped at Tjingkulatjatjarra Pool mid-year on a recon of the park. Entered along the shortcut you took and left south from Cotton Creek. I have loaded the .plt file into plotswap.

I am very tempted to end next years trip via the western track from the park.

Cheers
Alan

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Follow Up By: Member - Chris R (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 06:59

Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 06:59
HI Alan

Did you notice the ancient Jeep abandoned off the track at the base of the one and only outcrop you have to travel over on the old Rudall R entrance road off the Talawanna? Most impressive - 6 cyclinder motor and the whole cargo space was consumed by two water tanks - serious traveller from years ago.

Chris
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Follow Up By: equinox - Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:33

Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:33
No missed it. From memory that day was my first real day in the bush that trip. I would have been in awe at the views etc. :))

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