Lights protruding from bullbar - legal or no?

I think you are only allowed 4 driving lights.

in WA- max of 6 forward facing driving lights, including original headlights. So yes, for most 4 spotlights, but those vehicles that have the twin headlight highbeam thing, only 2.

Hows it going Peter,

The last rego check I had done the guy was carrying on about all the things he loved knocking back on modified 4wds , he happened to metion roof mounted lights being his favourite . He didnt have a definitive answer when I asked about a model of jeep that has these standard fitted into the stock roof rack , if it comes standard it has to have passed compliance checks .

Glenn.

Why would Bundy want all that crap on his car when he can only escort during daylight hours?

Hi Ray,
Bundy does a lot of long haul up to the coast and if he hasnt got a job to bring back down the coast he comes back. Drives till he is tired, sleeps and drives some more. I have seen the damage that roo's have done to the front of his car, and have helped make a guard for his steering components to keep them in place. When you work foryourself the quicker you can get back for the next job the better I guess.
Matt

Just had a look at his rig (Bundy) and the lights appear to be slightly behind or even with the bar.

M'mmm sounds a boit 'norty'. However, as you weren't aware of the 'exact' cirumstances under which the driver may or may not have been operating, it is impossible to make judgement. Don't forget, EMERGENCY VEHICLES do not have to comply with 'road rules' when operating as such - regardless of lights/siren operating etc.
Re the protruding lights, if it is illegal, don't do it - regardless of what others might or might not do. Get pinched, go to Court and tell the magistrate that you only did it because every one else does. Bet it won't get you very far. Most kids grow out of that type of behaviour by the time the reach 12 - 14 (perhaps/hopefully) as they soon realise that by following others it will only get them into trouble.
Have a Happy and safe Christmas.

What indicating do you need to do, when going "through a roundabout"?

Dunno mate, Im totaly confused on this one. Apparently you have to indicate your intention as you enter the roundabout and also as you depart.
I can understand that, if you turn left or stay on the roundabout but Ive always been used to the old system where you go straight across you dont indicate, now you have to.

I see so many variations at roundabouts I just use common sense and the right hand rule. Kept me out of trouble so far...lol.

Cheers...Lionel.

Not sure where you are but in WA the law basically says you have to indicate left 90 degrees before you exit a roundabout.

This link has all the roundabout rules, including pics. Page 65. May take a while to load.
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Firstly I have seen heaps of cop cars here (Penrith) where you can buy a bar about 40cm in length. You take your number plate off and this goes behind then put plate back onto the bar. Has two brackets facing forward of the number plate attached to the bar and this is where the driving/fog lights are mounted to. Well infront of any bumper bar. Available from Supercheap amd most spare part shops for around $70. I had one on my camry back in 94. As far as roundabouts go you are suppose to signal when exiting from the roundabout even when going straight ahead. Im with Lionel on this one. If going straight ahead you should just enter, exit. If turning either right or left off roundabout then indicator should be used. This crap of indicating when going straight ahead is bloody dangerous as some people have a habit of using the blinker when approaching making the other driver waiting to enter think there turning. Merry xmas to all. Regards Steve M

The items that you have mentioned are not illegal per se.
They are only illegal if they have been fitted outside of roadworthy or ADR parameters.

If you have a look at the proper ADR's then you will find yes they are illegal if you follow the ADR rulings to a Tee.

It is illegal to have anything protruding from a dash board, fishing rod holder are illegal for having sharp edges and protrude from the body work, roof consols you can hit your head on much the same as why roll cages are illegal.

People tend to carry to much weight on their roof racks...I think it is something like 100kg max (two 16 inch mags and tyres put you over).

Most 4wds are over weight when set up for touring or going away, our Hilux is within 50Kg's of being too heavy when loaded and we just have the normal stuff.

Any suspension over 35 to 50mm in most states is illegal.

After market seats are illegal unless ADR approved then you have to use ADR approved mounts for that specific vehicle.

Most people fit more aggressive off road tyres the there standard HT rated tyres; some off road tyres have a lower speed rating. it would not be hard and whilst on tyres most people fit larger diameter ones exceeding the 15mm max dia increase.

So if they wanted to get technical and defect you they will.

What about all the Nissan Patrol owners who block of there EGR valve...BIG DEFECT.

Regards Richard

Richard,

With the notable exception of the fishing rod holders, my Chevvy is illegal in every other aspect you mention.

Add to that things such as:

1). 20mm more offset on my wheels than standard,
2). replacement of internal mirror with a "tv" screen for the rear-view cameras,
3). electrical gear that stays on even when the vehicle is switched off and keys removed
4). modified electric window circuit so that windows can be operated without the key being in the ignition
5). L_O_U_D air horns
6). Loud engine/exhaust
7). HID replacement of standard headlights (without being altered to being self-levelling &/or having washers/wipers fitted)

and you may as well handcuff me and frog-march me off to the calaboose and thow-away the key....... hahaha

This whole thing is total bull-sh_t.

Cheers

Roachie

It would be safe to say any 4x4 that ventures off road is more then likely illegal in some form.

It is a load of bull-sh_t what the people in the know think is dangerous....it's the same thing with people in fast cars having boost gauge and a monster tacho mounted on the dash or "A" pillar...instant defect why because the police can as the vehicle does not meet ADR rules.

So who has a turbo timer fitted....bad on you another defect.

Thank god they don't enforce alot of these stupid ADR laws and turn a blind eye to it.

Roachie it's NOT illegal to have HID headlights aslong as you have auto leveling and washers fitted to them, thats why I carry a spray bottle to clean them and a screw drive to adjust them. LOL....

Heres another thing most of us would be done for including me is having a non ADR approved reversing light.

Regards Richard

Quote: "Heres another thing most of us would be done for including me is having a non ADR approved reversing light"....

Sorry, I forgot to add that one to my list: Guilty as charged x 2 (as I have 2 of these lights which I can switch on from the cab; great for shining a light onto the gate you've just passed through at 11pm).

Also have 2 gauges mounted on my "A" Pillar (in a pod). Strewth I'm a major crime-gang boss!!!! ;-))

And to think we go away with a criminal or two or three or...... shame on you shame.

What about all your warning devices????

But as you know those nice people from the goverment are only looking out for our safety.

Turbo timer is not illegal, but walking away from the vehicle with the engine running is.

And nether are HID lights sitting on the passanger seat but having a bald tyre on a rim in your vehicle or having lights fitted that have not been wired up are illegal.

G'day Kev,
Sorry, slightly OT, but have you had the GVM increased with the dual cab set-up? I'd be curious as to how much payload you will have now?
Cheers

Roachie

Roachie,

The Engineer passed it without any issues and has posted the certificate to me as he likes to take his time doing them :((
So when I get it I will let you know what he has calculated

Cheers Kev

The idea of having such big lights is to NOT hit the roos in the first place! Even so, if they were behind the first point of contact on the bar, the roo's body would still find its way in to the lights as it deforms...nice thought.

As it turns out my driving lights now only poke out an inch or so from my new bullbar so I'm happy with that.

Cheers,

Mark.