New driving lights

Ditto - you'll be hard pressed to find disappointment in the Lightforces - I had the 170's on my Jack - great overall and the fact that each can be adjusted from pencil to spread, plus the range of clip-on covers makes them highly practical (I have no affiliation etc.)The company's good customer support has been flagged here by forumites quite a few times over the last couple of years. The base models throw a lot of light - your headlamps will compare as the proverbial candles in a jar - and as Doug said, hardly seems necessary to go the more expensive jobs.

I will go with Lightforce too, but I like the 240s on my car. Don't ever call them unobtrusive though. The full frontal of Kath shows that below

Hey John R

That full frontal of Kath shows how much she needs some uplift on her front end.....such a shame that one so young need corrective surgery.... hahaha

Merry Xmas mate

Roachie

Maate, maate, she has her uplift at the appropriate moments. No need in every day events like going to the beach where she lets it all hang out. Its just a flick of the switch to get her uplifted or even go to limosine mode. Corrective surgery would be too expensive for my pocket. I just like her lustful size shiners, they give high beam a meaning ;-))))

Hope you have been having a fantastic Christmas mate with all the family. I shall be going to the first day of the Test tomorrow with your extended family. I hope they make you prosperous this next year mate

Hell John, Those mongrels must be ripping you off somethin' shocking!!!! You only get a guernsey for all these corporate box events if you are paying through the nose for what you get!!! hahahahaha (Don't tell Neil I said that or I'll be on the bloody dole!!!!)

Ditto what he said....

Have to give a vote to Hella 4000's too.

The body is robust, with sensible adjustment process. After a recent roo strike, only had to buy an insert, not the entire light.

Do a few globes but that's more the road conditions.

See lots of road trains with 4000's on 'em up this way too.

I found the Lightforce 170's good too, but expensive to replace what I'd call minor parts. They don't like gidgea trees.

Merry Christmas everyone,

Hooroo,
Bob.

Never had a problem with my Hella 4000's once adjusted never had to do it again.

They have been swimming numerous times without a drop of water getting into them.

Mogul,

A couple of years I drove through a flooded creek to get to Glen Florrie station in the Pilbarra . The owner looked at my flooded lights and laughed - he had a pair of 4000s and he said he had the same problem - they turned into fish tanks after a short swim . Hella just told him tough luck until he kicked up such a stink they replaced them . He didn't put the replacements back on his 4WD because Hella told him they were not designed to be submerged .

By the way , the ones I mentioned 4x4 Mag were Hella 1000s not 4000s .

If you want the truth , ring Hella . They say none of their lights are designed to be submerged ( except their special waterproof model ).

Willie .

PS Here is the email I received from Hella regarding my fish tanks

"Dear Mike,

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner but I have been away on business.

On the surface I would not say the lights are faulty, but to make a clear determination we would need to have the lights back so the we can inspect them. Would you be able to arrange for the lights to be returned to the NSW office and we will have our quality inspector in Melbourne look at them before determining if it is a warranty issue or not?

Please note that the Predator lights are designed to the highest standard, however they were not designed to be submersed. If you are looking at making river crossings where the lights will be submerged then we do have a light that has been specifically designed for this function called the Hydrolux.

If the lights are still working then they can probably been cleaned so that they before as they did prior to getting the water in them.

I will be away on holidays from today, so if you could have the lights returned to our Sydney office along with a record of purchase, I will have them sent to Melbourne for inspection. If you would like to speak with me regarding the issue, please give me a call on or after the 10th of October.

Kind Regards,

Robert Stevenson
NSW State Manager
Hella Australia Pty Ltd

Phone: +61 2 9891 6999
Mobile:  0402 323 072
Fax:      +61 2 9891 664

Think you'll find that in all States it is a requirement to have an isolating switch (on the dasboard ?) to disable driving lights so that high beam can be operated without additional lights.
As for replacing exisitng wiring loom with thicker cable FROM THE EXISTING HIGH BEAM LIGHTS don't you really mean - replace wire from battery to relay and relay to lights?

I thought the line "with thicker cable from the existing high beam lights direct to the Cranking battery, with a quality *IN-LINE* relay operated by the original high beam switch" sorta said that, I'm glad you sorted it out for me.

Yeah, as I say you must have "a separate on/off switch in the dash just to give you the option of driving with normal high beam at times" because it's a real bugga driving round upsetting oncomming motorists.
Mainey...

Rochie there is something better....HID Lightforces or you could go the Hella's like mine!

Your lights are pretty bright when your comming towards us.

HID in your main lights and driving lights are the way to go.

Excellent post Roachie.

Cool blue globes have less light output onto the road then the white ones.

Regards Richard

Slowie,

I have just listed a set of IPF's in the trader, They are negotiable ;))
If Darkie didn't have driving lights already they would have been fitted.

Cheers Kev