air tank
Submitted: Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:12
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Gob & Denny(hampton park vic)
goodday folks
i have a 9 kg gas bottle now out of date would it take the air pressure (approx 100psi)to be a storage
tank in the truck , setup properly with pressure cut etc
steve
Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:30
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:30
Steve, yes, given that it is not rusty or anything.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 13:22
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 13:22
Have a look at the markings on the cylinder.
You should see something along the lines of WP or MWP and some numbers this will tell you the maximum Working Pressure of the cylinder.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 16:31
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 16:31
Steve,
For safety reasons, the gas bottles have a "use by" date for storing LPG. This is due to the potential for internal rusting of the cylinder due to gas in liquid form, from compromising the sound structure.
For the same reason as use for storing gas, I wouldn't attempt to store air in the cylinder before the bottle was retested and certified.
Now, bearing in mind the cost of doing this is about the same as buying a new bottle, logic tells me it would be much more practical to buy a purpose designed air cylinder in the first place.
But that's just me.
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 17:29
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 17:29
Test Pressure is 3.3 MPa (approx 478.5 psi).....
draw your own conclusions from that;-))
Once the valve is removed, it's easy to see if there's any corrosion inside...
FWIW, I'm using an expired 4.5 kg (approx 9 litres) cyl as an air reservoir on my C/T (it's what I had available at the time;-)), and have no issues whatever w/- storing up to 120 psi in it...
As for having it tested, how many home workshop compressors do you know about that are 30, 50, & more years old, & have never had the
tank tested since new??...
I would have no hesitation doing what you propose (YMMV;-))
Regards, Ed C
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Follow Up By: DIO - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 18:39
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 18:39
Good point re the 'home compressors' HOWEVER they are relatively low pressure (compared to the 478 psi) of the LPG cylinder and they (generally) DO NOT contain a volatile gas e.g. LPG which if/when a B.L.E.V.E. (boiling liquid expanding vapour explosion) occurs, anything with 100 or more metres of it is potentially a risk of major injury, death, destruction.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 19:32
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 19:32
G'day DIO,
You're right, but I think you're missing the point just a little..... The result/inference of the post is that because a LPG cylinder is nominally good to cope with a maximum pressure of 478psi, even if it is in some way compromised internally, it will still (in all liklihood), be at least as good a proposition to store compressed air up to 100psi as a cylinder on a 20 year old air compressor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 19:54
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 19:54
Thanks Roachie:))
That was precisely the premise upon which my reply was based...
(but of course you knew that already, having read the OP;-)))
Catch ya later...
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Reply By: Gob & Denny(hampton park vic) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 20:17
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 20:17
thanks for the replies think i will make a
tank out of it
steve
goodday roachie
how are you and the family going
did you have a good christmas i hope so
we are currently emptying house and hope to be in the van by the end of february and on the road for our first trip end of june heading for the meeting at innaminka
steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 13:27
Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 13:27
G'day Steve,
Yes mate, all good over here....although I wish the big bloke upstairs would adjust the therostat down a bit ;-))
Cheers and have fun getting ready for your big circuit.....
Roachie and Annette and family
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Reply By: Gob & Denny(hampton park vic) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 20:17
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 20:17
thanks for the replies think i will make a
tank out of it
steve
goodday roachie
how are you and the family going
did you have a good christmas i hope so
we are currently emptying house and hope to be in the van by the end of february and on the road for our first trip end of june heading for the meeting at innaminka
steve
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Reply By: Quig - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 01:19
Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 01:19
I use one as an air
tank putting in 130 psi. Main issue that I was warned of was to make sure you clean it
well as: flammable vapour + compressed air = bomb.
cheers
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Reply By: time waster - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 08:22
Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 08:22
K-Mart sell a 18Lt $30 air
tank with fittings and most of all a pressure valve, if the pressure gets too high, I installed one in the Hilux
http://www.newhilux.net/rides.php?id=227
Thats the best link I can do.
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Follow Up By: Gob & Denny(hampton park vic) - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 12:55
Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 12:55
goodday t/w
what sort of pressure are we talking and what area of kmart
thanks
steve
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Reply By: time waster - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 20:01