Good Driving Lights...Sydney

Dunco,

You could try TJM at Blacktown, they have a large range of light and can fit them as well.

1/12 Garling Rd Kings Park. 02 96221000

Tell them that I sent you, it probably will not do any good, but give it a go.

Wayne

i,ve had many different driving lights over the years and my last 2 sets have been light force lights i think made in adelaide. very good lights,globes seem to last forever and you can get a range of clipon filters which enable the same light to be spread, pencil or fog beam. the filters are polycarbonate and act as a stone guard as well. my present set on pajero have been there for 320000km and i have not replaced a globe nor chipped a lens.

Gday,
Ive got Hella Rally 2000s and Hella Jumbos. They are great lights and have lasted for years but as soon as they need replaceing I will be going for Light Force.

Cheers

Light Force for me, i've had mine for 4 yrs on the Paj and never had a problem,overrall a great driving light.cheer's GREENDOG

There have been posts before about this and quite a few people had Cibie Oscars for many years.I've had mine since '74.

This is going to be a Toyota vs Nissan, Engel vs Waeco kind of thing.

Lightforce and IPF are the two leading brands and their are several different models/sizes to choose from.

Work out what sort of budget you have and price a pair of spotties accordingly.

Things may have changed but TJM kind of aligned themselves with the Lightforce brand and ARB with the IPF brand.

Me, I chose IPF's because they were the only ones that came in a rectangular shape which suited my bull bar better. They have a metal enclosure and keyed lock nuts to reduce the chance of theft.

Others will tell you if you haven't got Lightforce you haven't got the best, even if they are plastic.
The lightforce spots also have a range of optional, bling bling, coloured lenses if that suits your taste.

If you don't do much night driving out in open country then the Lightforce 240's seem overkill to me (I have them cause I do a lot of driving out there), the IPF's I had on the Patrol before the l/force are a good light but still pricey, so if you are after value, the Narva range seem OK for their price. Ultimately it will depend on where and how much night driving you do and what your budget is. Unlimited budget- limited open country driving= IPF for me. Lots of open country night driving= L/force 240's regardless of your budget just do it and you won't regret it, they are that good in this landscape.

Cheers, Trevor.

Hi, Dunco, just went through this myself. I ended up ordering the Lightforce 170 striker. I have just purchased a new Hilux & have the genuine bullbar fitted,the 170 strikers seem to fit just nice, the 240 blitz lightforce seemd a bit to big for me,depends what you drive I suppose. Mate look into the lightforce lights, I was just about to go Ipf or hella but I liked the build & weight of the LF,s No glass no break & heaps of light output. Should be arriving by the end of this week & I will install them over the long weekend.
Cheers.

Dunco



I have got Light Force and I am very happy with them.




Tjilpi

Dunco,

I have always had Hella Rallye 4000 driving lights until my last two 4WD's, which had IPF's. I was very disappointed in the performance of the IPF's considering they cost me the same as Rallye 4000's.

I have driven 3 vehicles with LightForce fitted and found them to be very good and worth the money. I will definately try them next on our new Cruiser. But for the work vehicles (atleast in the mean time) I will stick with Hella as they survive hitting skippies.

Thanks everyone...bloody excellent responses !!

Will now ponder and check things out...there is a TJM Corporate store 5 minutes away and will check them out tomorrow.

Thanks again

I notice that John S and Hairy recommend Hella .

I think they are good lights too on normal road cars , but they have a problem with water incursion on creek crossings .

Hella advertise their lights in 4WD magazines , but freely admit that the only light in their range that should be immersed is their special waterproof model .

I have personal experience of this , having driven my Hella HID Predator lights through a creek in the Pilbarra , and having them fill half full of muddy water in seconds . Not good good for lights worth over $2000 a pair . Hella management told me "tough luck " so now I always carry bags to put over them .

Never had that problem with my old Cibie lights .

Willie

How about throwing a cat amongst the pigeons !!!!!

Put HID in your headlights and don't worry about driving lights !!!!!

Good quality ones ( not made in China ) can be had on e bay for less than $200

Not saying they are better than driving lights .....but they are very impressive !!!!!!!

I have a set of IPF lights and all the wiring harness etc. which I took off my Pajero before I sold it. They are in excellent condition and I would accept a reasonable offer for them. Includes anti-theft nuts.
I think I paid over $500.00 for them.

One pencil beam the other wide beam.

Brand new, never been used white and black covers and a set of clear plastic protectors. One has a crack caused by a stone.

As far as getting lights fitted try, ARB on Milperra Road Moorebank. They did a pretty good job for me.

I am in Woonona, a northern suburb of Wollongong

ross.payne@issystems.com.au

Hi Dunco.

I think the answer to your question depends a lot on where you are likely to be driving at night.

I run Hella Predator HID's and also have a set of Hella Rally 4000's with HID conversions. But I live in Kalgoorlie, and travel a lot on long, straight roads with a lot of roo's around.

If you are more likely to travel on winding roads, particularly where there is likely to be more traffic around, then I wouldn't be recommending the same type of lights. I agree completely with Crackles' comment suggesting a very noticeable lack of light when you dip the headlights and HID's and go back to low beam (I am currently upgrading my headlights to HID for this reason).

If you are looking for a good set of long range driving lights, then I would suggest your best options would be Light Force, Hella or possibly Cibie. I have had a lot of experience, both with my own vehicles and with work cars, with Light Force, Hella and IPF, but have not used Cibie for many years, so can only go on what others say about these. Of those that I have had experience with, the Light Force and Hella are about equal on performance as far as light output goes. Light Force has the advantage of being better water proofed, but the problems with the Hella in this area can be fixed quite easily. Hella has a more secure and stable mounting system (referring here to the Predator and 4000 series). All of our company cars have come with IPF lights fitted - I have removed these and fitted the Rally 4000's. The IPF's simply do not compare in any way with the Light Force and Hella products.

Also, whatever you look at - do not buy the "Roo Lights" that some of the 4WD shops are now promoting as a competitor to the Light Force. They are a cheap copy of the Light Force and do not match them in any way.

Cheers ............... BM