Ultimate camper behind a Prado

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 16:13
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We are looking at the Ultimate Camper now instead of the TVan and wonder whether the extra weight is okay with a Prado 4.0l petrol.
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:14

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:14
Not a problem. Mate tows one with a diesel prado & reckons you
would not know it was there....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:22

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:22
Thanks for that. I have only seen one Prado with an Ultimate and it was a diesel. We currently have a petrol but hinking to upgrade to new diesel model. Not sure I can afford the fuel though.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 01:06

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 01:06
Not sure if you can afford the fuel ?? Do you mean in a diesel ??

Fuel will be dearer......but overall fuel costs will be lower...

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:36

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 17:36
Well now, Roachie needs a 6.5 litre Chevy V8 Diesel donk to tow his Ultimate. Mind you, he has probably added as many "after market" accessories to the Ultimate, as he has to his "Prime Mover":-))

OK seriously, the Prado should "eat it".

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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 18:48

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 18:48
Overpriced phone booth
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Follow Up By: Pete and Lez - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 18:57

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 18:57
Good constructive answer. Any new 4wd is overpriced, but 1000's are sold.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:24

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:24
Or, maybe he was referring to the Ultimate Camper as being an "overpriced phone booth"?

If so, all I can say is that we are a family of 5 and we manage to live quite comfortably for weeks at a time in the remotest of locations..... that is all we require; horses for courses I'd have to say.....
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Follow Up By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:43

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:43
Roachie, we thought you lived in a house at Kadina...
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Reply By: Member - keith P (VIC) - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 21:13

Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 21:13
i dont think towing with this engine is the issue hear. the ultimate is the only trailer on the market with a ridiculously light weight tow ball down force. towing this behind a light vehicle like the prado i would worry about instability in the rear end of the prado. and caution driving on dirt roads. or 4wding. tvan has a greater down force (10-20%) which is much more suitable off road.
Keith
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:04

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:04
G'day Keith,

Mate; where do you get that info from?

I've owned an Ultimate for the past 9 years and reckon I _might_ have a bit of first hand knowledge on the subject.

I can lift the jockey wheel of my Ultimate off the ground ONLY if/when the boot is empty. This would be an estimated 40kg. This isn't likely to ever be the case when you're travelling! Once you load the boot/nose-cone up with all the usual gear (and the boot is HUGE and can/does get loaded up with up to 120kg of gear), there is the normal/recommended amount of ball weight bearing-down on the back of the tow vehicle (about 120kg at the coupling and GTM is 1200kg).

Hoping this clarifies the position for you....... I would not wish to see you spreading unfounded gossip about a trailer (I presume) you have never owned and never towed.

Cheers mate

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - keith P (VIC) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:29

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:29
can you not see the photo. i have been towing a tvan for 2 years and have driven desert tracks and thousands of k's in the Victorian high country. i was informed by ultimate when purchasing my trailer that the ultimate would never exceed 80kg on the tow ball.
you will never experience a problem as with your setup the patrol would be about 4000kg.
just a bit of a difference to the 2000kg Prado
Keith
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 13:04

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 13:04
G'day Keith,
Of course I saw your TVan in the photo......my reference to quote:

"I would not wish to see you spreading unfounded gossip about a trailer (I presume) you have never owned and never towed."

was in direct relation to the Ultimate Camper..... I was not inferring that you had never towed a trailer. Sorry if that's how the quoted sentence came across. On reflection, I should have added the word "which" in there so that it read:
"I would not wish to see you spreading unfounded gossip about a trailer (ie: the Ultimate) which (I presume) you have never owned and never towed"....

Be that as it may, I still know of plenty of Prado owners etc who have used their vehicles quite successfully with Ultimates. I seriously doubt that a Prado would weigh as little as 2000kg when set-up for an extended trip of the type which most owners would embark upon. These mid-range 4x4s are only marginally smaller/lighter than their bigger brothers and quite capable of handling a modest-sized trailer so long as there is some positive tow-ball weight.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - keith P (VIC) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 21:11

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 21:11
G'day Roachie
Sorry for my fast over reading of your quote. as before i was told by ultimate that at full load the tow ball weight would remain very low, and have found the higher force of the TVan very effective off road. maybe the figures i was given were from an overenthusiastic salesman?

Both trailers have there advantages and disadvantages and which every you decide to purchase you will take more pride in than the 4wd you use to tow.
i know i do.

Regards

Keith
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:21

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:21
G'day mate,

The Ultimate has a gross mass of 1200kg; about the same as most other camper trailers.

Accordingly, as someone else said, a Prado (whether it be diesel or petrol) would "eat" the job of towing it. There are plenty of Ultimate owners who tow with a Prado, Hilux, Pathfinder or other "mid-range" 4 wheel drive vehicle.

Diesel may cost a little more per litre than petrol, but you will use HEAPS less diesel for any given distance than an equivalent petrol-powered vehicle; especially if towing in sand/mud etc.

Cheers and good luck

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Findanomad - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 14:32

Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 14:32
Thanks guys
For the debate, I think I understand that the Prado will be fine, diesel is the way to go, and to check the tow ball weight issue a bit further.
Cheers
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