Camerons Corner via innamincka to Birdsville via Cordillo Downs

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We are doing a trip in July to Outback Queensland taking in Camerons Corner, Innamincka to Bridsville via Cordillo Downs, we have two 4WDs towing Jayco Outback vans and one memeber of the party has a Kluger towing a Jayco outback Swan, does anyone know if they are going to have any problems doing this trip?
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Reply By: GREENDOG - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:31

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:31
As i have advised other's on here that are making there way from Innamicka to Birdsville or vise versa take the Walker's Crossing trk much easier run allow 6 hrs thats what we did it in towing a C/T,just the last 20 or 30 ks of the trk towards the Birdsville trk end is abit stony but nothin like you would in counter on the Cordillo Downs trk .cheer's GREENDOG
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Follow Up By: spraker - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:40

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:40
Greendog, doesn't it say that trailers are not allowed on Walkers track?
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Follow Up By: GREENDOG - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 20:19

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 20:19
Trailers are allowed on the W/C trk .cheer's GREENDOG
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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:53

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:53
None. That trip is easy but can get a bit rocky in places.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:55

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 17:55
spraker

"does anyone know if they are going to have any problems doing this trip? "

If any does know how to tell the future let me know the lotto winning numbers for next week. :-)))
No one can tell if you are going to have problems on the trip but the way you want to go it should not stop the vehicles getting there.

Do becarfull at and creek crossing, dips and wash outs. They can hurt the Kluger. I would put the Kluger either 2nd or 3rd in the convey, that way he can be warned about the road ahead via UHF.


Also be on the lookout for a lot of vehicles going to Innamincka in the 2nd week of July, and a convey led by a white Troopie.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Mottleman (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 18:15

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 18:15
Spraker
July 07, all those roads were very good and easy for jayco outbacks and careful driving. We were out there after a Simpson crossing but without our Jaycos. This year we'll be out there again (2 families) with the Jaycos but leaving the Simpson alone.
If the gibbers are out on the roads you can still easily get through you just will adjust your speed accordingly, particularly the Kluger.
Might see you out there....
cheers
John
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Follow Up By: spraker - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 18:28

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 18:28
Thanks John, Did you go Walkers crossing or Cordillo Downs? We are not going to the Simpson this time only to Birdsville, (making sure to go out to Big Red) and then up to Bulio and back to Brisbane through Longreach.
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Follow Up By: Member - vivien C (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 21:15

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 21:15
We've only been on the Cordillo Downs road not the Walkers Crossing but I think for the first trip up that way it would be a pity to miss out on having a look around Cordillo Downs Shearing Shed. We spent time wandering round, taking photos and reading about the history and thought it was well worth it.

From what I've heard Walkers Crossing might be the easier way but although the Cordillo Downs road was slow going we had no problems.

Viv
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Follow Up By: Member - Mottleman (NSW) - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 07:49

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 07:49
We have been both ways. Last year we did via Cordillo. The kids love the big shed and we often have a lunch break at Cadelga ruins. I've seen it very mushy and lots of gibbers through there but nothing that sensible slowish driving wouldnt get through.
cheers
John
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 18:31

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 18:31
Did all those roads in a 1969 Corolla. Reckon you'll be fine provided you drive to the conditions.
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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 22:32

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 22:32
Why did ya buy the cruiser then?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 22:56

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 22:56
Gday Nick,
Good Question... but I really, that country is 2wd territory. In the 1970's you'd see more 2wds out there than 4wds.

These days I have a 4wd because it has enough payload to carry my wife's essentials - a case or two of Tonic water and the stuff that goes with it :-)

In the Corolla, we had a waterbag full of murky Cooper Creek water, but it tasted OK!
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Reply By: Graham & Ann - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 20:30

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 20:30
Back in 2003 we went some of the way your heading, ie Camerons Crn, Innamincka to Birdsville via Haddon Crn, nice drive, we towed our 17ft van no poblems.. some of our comments re the route can be viewed in a document Gulf FNQ 2003 trip on the Caravaners Forum ...............

http://tinyurl.com/qahs

some of it maybe of interest to you........
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Reply By: Holden4th - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 21:27

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 21:27
I'm heading out in my 05 NP Di-D Paj with a couple of mates aboard on April 4 from the Gold Coast. The route out includes overnighters in Gundy, Eulo, Noccundra, Epsilon Station, Innamincka and Birdsville. We want to take in the Dig Tree and Cameron Corner on the way to Birdsville. I'd also like to do the other corner - Haddon's (I've also done Poeppel) - and thought that the best way to do this was on the way out from Birdsville to Windorah. I've done Cordillo Downs a couple of times and thought that Walkers Crossing would be a better bet on the Innamincka - Birdsville section. Is this the best way to get to Haddon's Corner or do I have to do Cordillo Downs again?
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Reply By: Crackles - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 21:29

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 21:29
Spraker it depends a bit on which model Kluger & if it's standard. Low profile road tyres on alloy rims are always a bit of a worry no matter what the car particularly on rocky tracks like these. The Kluger is also a little short on clearance when loaded with additional fuel, water & of course the trailer which will mean a bit of scraping on the frequent creek crossings.
At times these tracks can cut up pretty bad particularly after local rain with many full sized four wheel drives not towing anything having trouble. Current up to date reports should be got just prior to leaving with an alternate route planned.
A recommended route from Innamincka is out to the dig tree then north via Arrabury. Far smoother road & nice country through the jumpups.
As for the Jayco's well they use the word "Outback" pretty loosely :-) IMHO they are built to a price & not completely suited to rough outback roads. They will complete a trip like this if taken quietly but many have needed serious repairs when they fell apart. (Other owners may be able to speak 1st hand about this)
Cheers Craig.............
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 22:45

Thursday, Feb 07, 2008 at 22:45
You should be right using walkers if need be...sandy, rocky, wildflowers - mix of all.....cameron corner - innamincka we used merty merty way up strzeleki creek track....missed the bollards lagoon trn off but this way you can see the Big Yellow Bus....

Dunno how the kluger suspension will go?? is it an actual 4wd or just a AWD??? Tyres will be another thing to change from standard....plenty of posts here about those....

have fun but I wouldnt take a kluger!!

Laura
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Reply By: Shawsie - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:33

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:33
Spraker, we did Innamincka to Birdsville via Cordillo downs, then came back via Walkers Crossing in 07. I would not go via Cordillo Downs again as the Gibbers took there toll on my near new Mickey Thompsons (urk!) so the Kluger might take a hammering (get good rubber). It's an easy drive when dry tho with a camper or AWD, but the road is full of Gibbers & Corrugations however, Walkers Crossing was smooth as silk and quicker. Many people take Cordillo downs, just go steady. Andrew.
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Reply By: Neil - ACT - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:57

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 08:57
We travelled from Broken Hill-Tibooburra-Camerons Corner-Innaminka-Birdsville-Marree in July/August 2007. We have a NS Pajero LWB diesel towing a Jayco pop-top Outback.

No freely available drinking water in Innaminka, but water can be purchased at the Innaminka Trading Post (obviously dearer than in the capital cities). Water freely available at Birdsville.

We camped at Policeman's Waterhole a few k's out of Innaminka. Right on the water's edge of Cooper Creek, and soooo peaceful!!!

Travelled from Innaminka to Birdsville via Nappa Merrie and Planet Downs (the Arrabury Road). We did this section over 2 easy days. We went this way on advice from the guy at the Innaminka garage, who advised that (at the time) there were some washouts and ruts on the Cordillo Downs track that he would not recommend at all for our rig.

Average fuel consumption was 16 litres/100kms. We were carrying 60 litres of extra fuel, and needed to use 20 litres of that to ensure we go to Birdsville without sucking the tank dry - and sucking any dirt in the bottom of the tank through the system!!

Great trip, and would love to do it again. No problems re car or caravan, but we travelled very much to the conditions, which varied from corrugations to soft sand to gibber plains.

Agree with other posts re ground clearance concerns, but not being familiar with Klugers, cannot comment definitely on whether or not problems will actually be encountered. However, it is something that you should think about in your planning.

It's a beautiful part of Australia - take it easy and enjoy!!


Neil and Judy

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 10:12

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 10:12
"sucking any dirt in the bottom of the tank through the system!!"
Hate to point out the obvious Neil but the fuel pickup on all cars is at the bottom of the tank so dirt could be sucked up at any time, not just when one is running on empty.
Cheers Craig............
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Follow Up By: Mike - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 12:29

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 12:29
Water is available from the tap by the showers,in the carpark at the Innamincka trading post. As to whether you wpould drink it, or the water available in Birdsville, is another question altogether!

Enjoy those wonderful parts of the country though.

Happy trails, Mike.
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 19:54

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 19:54
I refilled my 10L bottle of water from the tap at the Shell in Birdsville and it tasted fine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 09, 2008 at 08:43

Saturday, Feb 09, 2008 at 08:43
Happy Trails Mike!!!! How the devil are you? You up to travelling our way this year? Ruth and Ian.
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Follow Up By: Mike - Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:05

Monday, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:05
Hi Ruth and Ian, No unfortunately (travel wise), we're back on board the state league netball bus. That keeps us both flat out for most of the winter, so a couple of quick dashes to Pooncarie and Arkaroola is our limit for this year.

Hope you are both well and enjoying your "retirement"

Happy trails, Mike.
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Reply By: Member - Geoff C (QLD) - Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 09:43

Friday, Feb 08, 2008 at 09:43
We will be doing this trip too. Gotta love this site.
Geoff
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