4wd driver training instuctor.

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:29
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How does someone become qualified to instruct a driver training programme??

This is something I could do over the wet season, EG train new tour guides, I have discussed this with the guy that set up the guide accreditation course he agrees that this needs to be looked at.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:38

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:38
Steve
Coulb be a bit like the Pilot/Escort accreditation , pay some mongrel who knows as much as you do just to get a piece of paper and a licence to do what you know already what needs to be done.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:38

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:38
Oh ...I forgot

Hi to the little Fella

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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:50

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:50
Hey Doug.

I suspect your right, but could be a good source of income during the wet after the annual trip.

Anja has just finished sorting out our photo's for the trip, approx 100 so I will put some on my rig pic tonight and set up the rest on photo bucket tomorrow.

Philip is great and growing fast.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 23:37

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 23:37
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Yes I reackon your right, good backup for income and you won't be over here annoying Crazy Dog and me.....lol,

Yep...won't be long and Phillip will be giving you the orders.

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:47

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:47
Steve,

If you give Vic a ring over the week end he should be able to let you know what is required.

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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 23:13

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 23:13
G'day Steve,

you could try getting in touch with the Australian National 4wd Council
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Reply By: The Explorer - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 23:16

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 23:16
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 00:16

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 00:16
Thanks guys I will try over the weekend to follow this up.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Wayne's 60 - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 01:05

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 01:05
G'day Steve,

As a start you would need to have "Train small groups" which is part of the Cert 4 in Work Place Training and Assessment. Next stage is Assessor, then followed by Instructor. You also need to have done the course that you will be presenting.
There are lots of numbers and letters to designate the current certification, both Sally and I did ours under the old criteria... BSZ40198. A quick Google search has the current standard under TAA40104 and more information can be obtained from National Training

We wish you well and hope this helps.

Regards,
Wayne & Sally.
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Follow Up By: Rob from Cairns Offroad Training & Tours - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:59

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:59
Hi Steve s Wayne said, first and foremost you need Cert IV in Training\Assesment I did mine at our TAFE college. Cheers Rob Berrill Feel free to give me bell if I can help 0402 329 32.
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Follow Up By: Dave from P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 18:56

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 18:56
Rob is on the track here, your Cert 4 is the first step.

Give me a call if you like
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Follow Up By: Wayne's 60 - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 21:57

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 21:57
Hi Steve,
I've just been re-reading my post to you. Further to my previous comments.
As a tour operator, most of the requirements you could probably do with your eyes closed, IE you look after tour participants, anticipate problems and have remedial procedures and guidelines in place. As mentioned by Doug, from here you, "pay some mongrel who knows as much as you do just to get a piece of paper and a licence to do what you know already what needs to be done"
Most RTOs will do Recognition Of Prior Learning ( RPL) and there is normally a premium attached to this. Sometimes it is better to do the whole course and gain certification under the RTO's current criterior, which is easier and ( in many cases ) the cheaper alternative.

If I/we can assist with further information, or to qualify our comments, please let me know. Only too happy to help as we can.

Cheers,
Wayne.


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Follow Up By: Rob from Cairns Offroad Training & Tours - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 22:49

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 22:49
The biggest advatage of having drivers trained to the Nationally Recognised Standard is that it frees the employer up of litigation in the event of an accident. Doug is probably right in that you will have to pay to get a piece of paper to prove things that you are already competent at. The fact of the matter is once you are proven to be competent and the drivers you employ are certified it frees you up from litigation in the event of an accident. If your drivers havent been trained to at least the nationally recognised standard you stand to loose everyting if someone sues your company. You will also be surprised how your drivers attitude changes to themselves and the vehicles they drive once they are trained correctly. Cheers Rob Berrill
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 23:19

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 23:19
Thanks to all your replies.

I understand completely how the system works, As I have to do an Accreditation course to do a job I have been doing for 15 years, in a place I have been living and working in for 34 years, this course allows a person with no Idea to become accredited in 6 weeks.

Doing one of these courses would not be a problem including cost.

There is definitely a place for this in the tourism industry up here, there is not a day go by that I don't think today is the day it goes pear shaped on the Jim Jim road, there is a lot of young drivers with a troopy 9 backpackers and a tonne of trailer music blearing thumping down that road.

You can imagine if a wheel bearing or spring hanger lets go, or a blow out at speed, I have had many close calls with on coming cars be it tour cars or Fritz in his Britz.

The person responsible for the accreditation is a close friend of mine and agrees that we should put together a driver training programme, so I could probably get funding through him for this.

Now that I have some places to go and your kind invitations of help, let me talk to Ian and see if we can put some thing together.

I will contact some of you soon, once again thank you.

Cheers Steve.



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Follow Up By: Dave from P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 07:35

Saturday, Mar 01, 2008 at 07:35
ooh, don't forget that you will need somewhere to conduct your training. If you currently operate tours on Public Land, don't believe for a second that you will be allowed to offer traiining on that land.

I met with the Minister for Environment and Sustainability a fortnight ago to try and state the case for driver education...
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Reply By: Member - Alex B - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 17:41

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 17:41
Hi Steve,
PNL 4WDriving pty ltd run nationally accredited full instructor courses which incorporate 'Guide 4WDrive tours' (SRODRV004A) And leading Trips and Tours.
Meet them at the recent Wandin 4WD show, and they sent me their info today re driver training. This course was in their program catalogue contact number 03 9569 9348 or www.pnl4wd.com.au

Sounds just like what you are after.
Cheers
Alex
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