What sort of distance have you received on your uhf radios.
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Member - DAZA (QLD)
While I was driving in
Brisbane the other day, I had the radio on scan,
and picked up some people talking as a group, on ch 7 which is a
repeater ch, one bloke was 40kls south of
Tenterfield which would be approx 290 ks away, I couldnt help my self and called him, the
transmission was very clear.
Cheers
Daza
Reply By: Holden4th - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:04
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:04
My best effort, without a repeater station, is over 80 Kms. We arrived at
Kings Canyon to find that there was no firewood so I treked back out past the NP limits to collect it. This was an 80+ km journey and while collecting I could hear the office staff talking to the cleaners via hand helds. This was using a GME TX3400 with a AE409L antenna using the -6dB whip.
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Reply By: Member - Littleborgy (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:05
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:05
Hi Daza,
I quite often pick up people talking on the UHF from Kadina... Not Roachie though, i think the main bloke i hear is called
John
Cheers, Brad
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 20:12
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 20:12
ANd some guy called Whiskey Bottle Bill.
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Follow Up By: Member - Littleborgy (SA) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 20:42
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 20:42
G'day Brew, i don't think i've heard him on there before... Maybe i haven't been listening close enough to their dribble (typical of
Yorke Peninsula folk LOL)
Saw u again on Sth Rd Extension again the other day (Fri 14th), but by the time i noticed, it was too late... Maybe next time i'll notice sooner & give u a wave.
Cheers, Brad
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Reply By: Atropos - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:09
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:09
HI Daza,
UHF / VHF can sometimes be heard over very long distances, its caused by a condition caused "ducting" where signals get piped between layers of different tempratures in the upper atmosphere.
As an example I was in contact with a station in Yepoon QLD from
my home in
Melbourne a few weeks ago. And we regularly hear stations fom Tasmania on our 'Ham Radio" repeaters in
Melbourne.
A few months ago a Station in South Australia made a contact with a Station In New Zealand.
So given the right conditions you can have quite long range contacts on VHF and
UHF radio.
Best 73
John VK3ARK
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:09
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:09
Normally any radio frequency transmission above about 30MHz is “line of sight” only. That means exactly what it says; so if you are on a mountain top your transmission will have a long distance (maybe 200km?) but if you are in a valley in may be as short as 1km?
However… there is a phenomenon called “tropospheric ducting” which occurs under certain ionosphere conditions (when the planet get a bit bored :) and will carry VHF/UHF signals for thousands of kilometers. This is a totally unpredictable condition and may only last a few minutes.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Vince B (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:06
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:06
Hi Mike.
Years ago we were up in the mountains west of Casino(northern NSW) & picked up transmissions from thePort Botany container wharf in
Sydney.They were as clear as day however we could not contact them.
Regards.
Vince
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 07:17
Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 07:17
yep..hieght is might
and so is watts..:)))
i can hear the cockies our reaping on YP here in
adelaide
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:12
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:12
It's interesting what can happen sometimes. Maybe it's just a freaky thing.
I've had 120k on UHF but over water up the coast north of
Perth.
Also, in the good old days of analogue mobile phones I was on the beach at
Two Rocks (north of
Perth) and rang
home (
Perth). When I got the bill it showed that I got thru via
Busselton. Directly over the water that is 240k's from my phone to the antenna at
Busselton.
Now let's talk about the range of Next G. lol.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:27
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:27
How about from Mars to Earth- and about the same power as your car transciever...
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:47
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 19:47
David
Thats not as far as Venus to Mars, and thats the distance between us and "Her indoors".
Colin.
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 20:19
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 20:19
I have my UHF antenna mounted in the middle of the roof on the Jack. Inconvenient at times especially in underground carparks etc but I get good range with it, in flat country I average around 80km over water I have had unbelievable range,
Weipa to
Karumba...
I enjoy listening to the absolute drivel that not even I can better
"looks like theres a river under the bridge up ahead George" "better
check it out Ron".....
What I want to hear "there are 3 lots of casual skirt in front Fawlty" " rightoh mate lets dump the handbrakes &
check them out"
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Reply By: Member - Roger B (VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:28
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:28
While serving in my units Command Post in Sth. Vietnam in 1970. I could hear these very 'English' voices over one of our VHF sets. It turned out to be a British Infantry unit on exercises in the hills out of Hong Kong. We had very clear contact for only about five minutes, then they just faded away. Was exciting at the time.
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Reply By: Dunco (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:43
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:43
We always called it "skipping" as the radio waves skipped off the atmosphere, or air, or something.
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:59
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 22:59
When I was in W.Qld, we used to regularly get 100Km on simplex, mobile to base.
Mobile sets were Sawtron 999s with 9db fibreglass whips, base was a Sawtron 990 with a 12db on a 20 metre high mast.
Daza,
That bloke south of
Tenterfield may have been punching out more than 5W also.
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Reply By: Nick R (VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 23:59
Tuesday, Mar 18, 2008 at 23:59
best we have done on simplex was tasmania from southern Victoria, on duplex from warrnambool to just to the east of
geelong
nick
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 08:12
Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 08:12
Westgate Bridge to Warrnambool by duplex. Simplex to
Portland across the water and Tasmania too.
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Reply By: DIO - Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 08:25
Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 08:25
Regularly travel between
Broken Hill and
Nyngan. Have had many clear conversations with other users on the Dukes Hwy, Horsham,
Stawell etc. Must admit though mostly at night. Use 6db roof mounted and Ch 40. Distance - as crow flies - about 600 km
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Reply By: str- Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 15:25
Wednesday, Mar 19, 2008 at 15:25
Daza,
The Ch 7 repeater is up on MT Glorious. It picks up the ch37 signals from a fair way out and rebroadcasts out over ch7. its the repeater that has the range not our uhf's.. although his would be pretty strong or great line of sight to hit the repeater from that far out. ( sorry if you already know how duplex works)
I didn't understand how duplex works at first..... I thought I had great range until the repeater was off one day... then I only hit about 10-15ks around otherwise
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Reply By: Jeeps - Monday, Mar 24, 2008 at 03:06
Monday, Mar 24, 2008 at 03:06
The ch7 repeater at Mt Glorious is one of the highest repeaters in aus let alone qld. It gets some pretty amazing range. The bloke who owns the ch7 license (a truck driver) is usually on early in the mornings with his mates before all the riff raff wake up and start their usual bollocks. the ch7 repeater has directional antennas pointed away from
ipswich because there is a lot of dribble from that way.
The most range i've managed was 22klm car to car (verified with gps) with 2x 400pro's & rfi antennas on fraser island's eastern beach. From the
home base with my 16element beam it was about 120klm without a repeater. I've been up Mt glorious and i can tell you that every single simplex channel and every cb in south east qld comes in strong :) It's very high ;)
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