To chat or not to chat, that is the question?

Submitted: Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:10
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We have been told what to do, and not do, by a non member, he then suggests it’s the members of this site that deter him from joining. I quote, with his words:

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If you really want 'smileys' you could always use MSN Messenger & save a lot chat on here & keep this forum for the purpose for which it was intended.

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Yes NON Member...... because I have noticed it is the Members that are the main offenders for turning interesting threads in to private chat rooms.
This is a very interesting & informative site & should be kept that way.

There is some merit in what is said, what this person seems to forget or is unaware of, is the fact that we often personally know the person we are chatting with, and as a non member possibly doesn’t understand that fact.

Get both sides of the whole story from thread 56544 towards the end.

THIS IS THE QUESTION:
Do we like and/or want to keep the ability to sometimes banter and chat with our friends, or Not?
Or is it too distracting from the forum’s integrity & purpose?
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Reply By: Dasher Des - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:23

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:23
I have been a paid up member of this site for about 5 years and whilst I still learn about some subjects raised on here, the perennial tyre/fridge/suspension discussions become very ho-hum. For the last few years when my membership renewal has become due, I have asked myself is it worth continuing my membership.
I have met quite a few members and visitors from this site and because I don't have the opportunity to chat to them, I frequently use the site to banter/poke fun at or stir and I can be as guilty as anybody for doing that.
My reason for continuing my membership here is that I regard my $30 renewal fee $30 value for the entertainment value alone.
Without being able to do so, my membership would have expired several years ago.

Thats my opinion and I don't care if others disagree
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:34

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:34
Dasher Des, I wont disagree, I feel you represent the feelings of many others on this site.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:00

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:00
Dasher Des

Are you posting from two different computers???

Your membership doesn't show under your name.

If you are who I think you are you had better not continue in this vein or I will have to dob you in to the BOSS.....LOL


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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:02

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:02
Dasher Des

Are you posting from two different computers???

Your membership doesn't show under your name.

If you are a Donut Supplier you had better not continue in this vein or I will have to dob you in to the BOSS.....LOL


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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:30

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:30
Willem

Does SWMBO know that you have a 'twin brother' who posts the exact same reply as you do.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:32

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:32
??????? Lucy?
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Follow Up By: Dasher Des - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:07

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:07
Willem, Now listen here you, before you have any plans to dob me into my BOSS, just remember who supplies you with Donuts. LOL
Good to catch up again on the weekend too.

The Dasher
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 16:43

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 16:43
Dasher Des, I agree with Willem. You seem to be under the mis-aprehension you re preaching from a members point of view when you really aren't a member. LOL You betetr pay up.

Willem, I can see Lucky has a point there, or did you meant to post twice. Glad you got home safely, though deaf from Jeddah's truck warnings.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 17:03

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 17:03
John and Dasher (more like a prancer though LOL)

If you look carefully at Willems 2 successive posts he has different wording in both.
The last paragraph is changed (for the better I reckon) ha ha

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Follow Up By: Willem - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 17:09

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 17:09
Aaaahhh Kevin, the forum detective....hahahahaha

Must've been a glitch in the system sonewhere...lol



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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 18:31

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 18:31
Willem,

Some of your posts would make good questions for the trivia night LOL

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Reply By: Member - John G- Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:31

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:31
G'day Colin

I think there's two issues:

1. Thread discussion that quickly gets away from the original question or point
2. Mates chatting

Both are easy to pick and individuals can choose whether to stick with it, decide to join in, or stir. Folks don't have to read everything and my guess is that they become discerning pretty quickly.

There's heaps of good stuff on the site besides the Forum!?

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:38

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:38
Well said John & not forgetting the other stuff that only members can see and do, blogs, post pictures, file swaps & MM's +++
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Reply By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:54

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 17:54
CHAT I say,

I may appear to be a serial offender to have a chat that distracts from a thread topic but that is nothing compared with the offline emails that get passed around.

People when reading the said threads need to cut the friendly banter aside and get the info they want.
Replying about comments that sidetracking a thread is just adding to the issue as that starts yet another offshoot to the thread.

Just wait until post Innamincka or when State of Origin starts then we will definately be off track and on fire LOL

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:39

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:39
"Just wait until post Innamincka or when State of Origin starts then we will definately be off track and on fire LOL Cheers Kev"

Nah, do you think so?????
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:50

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:50
No but I'll stand corrected LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:58

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:58
Kev
Must take a note of this post/reply so I can point your comments out to .....Ummm ....her.

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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:09

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:09
Keep Joy out of this and get back to toilet training LOL

Kiwi is still attempting to get EO access at the Uni in Armidale ha ha ha
I love not having to attend residentials

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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:43

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:43
Howdy there young Kev, how are you. Hows Darkie performing? Have you had her/him bagged yet. & how do you like living back in your home state? Is it as good as you thought it would be. I hope so as they tell me the weather is wonderfull up your way.
Anyway, I must sign off now as there is a bit to much off topic chit chat going on. Cheers.
PS any thoughts yet on who might win the State of Origin? & by the way, did you overcome the cane toad problem you had? Dreadfull little critters from what I have heard.
Anyway the cyber smoke from the cyber camp fire is starting to make my eyes water, So will get back in my kennell now. LOL
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:46

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:46
Barry,

I have told you previously that Queensland will win 3 - Nil LOL

I also enjoyed Sundays game between the Broncos and Newcastle as it was a good intro for what will happen to NSW (They will loose)

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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:59

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 07:59
Ill be the first to admit that if it gets sooo strict that we cannot ask how so-and-so is going, or have the odd bit of fun then my membership will expire, I probably dont use half of the ''membership" bonuses anyway!

If you take a look at things you will notice that those serial chatters, ie Kev & me, actually do more serious replies than the funny ones where we give each other bleep e!

Like you said Kev......if we put every single one of our emails on here everyones computers wouldnt work....the best being over 150 emails in one day....put that into perspective compared to the few that will occur.

and Doug....thanks!! He told me something along the lines of "we've been told to behave ourselves" on the phone last week.....

and bring on the next res school....they have bundy on tap there!!!
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:06

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:06
I too vote for banter, but not for banters sake. The forum topics are the real meaningful things here, banter is just like a side order of fries
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:42

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:42
G'day Bonz
Life is like a bowl of fries, some are golden & crisp, some are pale & soggy & some are burnt, you just don't know which one you're guna get next.
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:13

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:13
I would tend to fall in with the 'let it be' crowd. For those who are worried that threads go off topic or degenerate into some kind of chat room, here is a tip:

Most questions/queries/problems tend to be answered within the first 4 or 5 replies. Call it the rule of ExplorOz if you like and the rule is this: The further away from the original post, the less likely you will turn up anything useful. I don't know that too many useful gems have turned up in follow up number 45 to reply 37 (could be wrong though).

This makes it easy to avoid all the chit chat if you wish. If you are interested in a thread, read the first 4 or 5 responses and don't bother again, chances are you won't learn anything new in any case.

Serial 'offenders'? Yep, there are some (glad you dobbed yourself in Kev before I was forced to). I honestly think though that the chit chat gives the site a less clinical feel and makes it seem a bit more like an online community. One of the great joys of travelling is the people you meet along the way, usually relaxed and happy to share a story or two with you. Well, maybe the forum is a bit of a vicarious trip for those of us too busy to pack up and go.

At the end of the day, if a thread gets too convoluted and boring for you, don't go back to it.

My only other tip is that as soon as Bonz replies to a thread, it is no longer worth reading.

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Follow Up By: Dunaruna - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:22

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:22
Um, that would mean that your post is not worth reading. (insert smiley face here)
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:23

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:23
Usually goes without saying for my rantings.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:54

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:54
My only other tip is that as soon as Bonz replies to a thread, it is no longer worth reading.

But the serial Trendsetter is also worth a laugh (Lucky) and of course Roachie's replies must be gospel as he has issues every time he drives out of his driveway, if it hasn't happened to him then it is not worth mentioning on here LOL

Cheers Kev

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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:19

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:19
LOL you are kidding. Shaker is just a tightarse. That's the most pathetic excuse I've heard for not becoming a Member.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:27

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:27
Hey Gramps, I think you were part of the problem that got him going on the other thread, along with Jo & I and others. LOL.

Keep your end up mate.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:35

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:35
Colin,

I always try to do my bit upsetting the Forum Nazis LOL

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 18:50

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 18:50
Gramps .... On what basis of fact do you publicly denigrate me as a "tightarse"?

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 20:54

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 20:54
Exactly as stated Shaker.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 23:30

Saturday, Apr 19, 2008 at 23:30
Well maybe I find some of the Members, such as yourself very annoying with your high & mighty attitude just because you are a Member.
Maybe as a Member you should be even more bound by the rules & wishes of the owners of the site.
As I said before, if you feel that you need 'smileys', maybe you should go to a more juvenile chatroom, rather than clog up this unique & informative site.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Sunday, Apr 20, 2008 at 16:09

Sunday, Apr 20, 2008 at 16:09
Shaker please don't call members of this site high and mighty, if I remember it was your comments that prompted this thread:

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If you really want 'smileys' you could always use MSN Messenger & save a lot chat on here & keep this forum for the purpose for which it was intended.
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yes NON Member...... because I have noticed it is the Members that are the main offenders for turning interesting threads in to private chat rooms.
This is a very interesting & informative site & should be kept that way.

Don't you consider those a tad provocative & high & mighty, telling paying members of this site what they should be or not be doing, when the author's have paid to be using this site, and you as a guest preach to them, when the vast majority like what is going on in the site, which is self evident by this very post.

Personal attacks are ugly, unnecessary and are also against the rules that you want to cite.
Please don't do that.

Try MSN or other forums if you don't like the members of this one.
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Reply By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:30

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:30
The feeling I get is, after 6+ posts, "banter is just like a side order of fries" so dont hold the fries.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:55

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:55
If it is a side order of fries can we upsize them??
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:41

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:41
It is at times annoying when an interesting thread is sidetracked or lost in amongst a few people who know each other chatting. If it's just a couple of follow-ups it really doesn't matter but when it's an off topic conversation that goes on over several replies I'd suggest many may lose interest. Quite rightly it could even be seen as being rude just like talking over the top of someone else. As the originator of a question one could be annoyed if their Engel V Waeco thread was taken over by talk of "When are you leaving for Innamincka?" particularly seeing he has to wade through all that useless dribble in his Inbox. I suppose that's why member messaging was invented ;-)
Cheers Craig..................
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:52

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:52
Thanks Crackles. I agree with your sentiment, and yes MM's are a good tool, but I feel most banter is in the "Follow ups" and is therfore easy to bypass and is not distracting too far from the thread as a whole. just MHO.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:21

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:21
Often much of the banter is tacked onto the first couple of replies meaning anyone following the thread has to wade past it each time they open it up. For the many who are here for the entertainment & freindship value that of course wouldn't be an issue but for those simply after an answer to the question it surely must be a pain at times. This of course continues when using the search function as off topic chat will lead you to many threads with nothing to do with what you were looking for.
Cheers Craig...........
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:42

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:42
This probably wont get read now being after post # 5 LOL.

Personally I don't care about idle chit chat as some times it can be entertaining, I don't care whether you are a member or not either, If a member thinks another member is out of line he/she has a right to say something, but if a non member has a gripe, for me it is to bad, the same way it is with voting if you don't vote you don't have a say.

One thing that I would like to see is people putting their name to their posts.

Just so as you know, Not only am I a advertiser here I also hold membership.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:56

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:56
Yeah, you're right Steve no one read it, LOL.
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Reply By: Mark & Jo, S/side, Bris - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:42

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:42
I shall just say again what I said on the other thread, minus a name and one sentence. I usually don't like to get involved in the threads where things become touchy touchy but on this one I had to have my say.

We are all mates on here, many of us not just through the forum threads but good friendships formed because of this forum outside the website. Yes somethings go off topic, and if it is a bit way off David will say so, we are all cool with that.
This forum for us isn't just about our passions for the outdoors/travelling it is also a link for us all to stay connected and keep our friendships. Yes we have all heard of email, and we do so, but when you want to share something or ask something with Everyone... The forum is our connection amongst each other.
The Teams work to make this forum and website what it is, And it is why we are members because we all want to stay connected with each other and support what David and crew have done for us all in return.
You try and find just one forum on the web that absolutely, totally stays to the complete topic, And I mean no how are yous? happy birthdays, can anyone help me with my computer blah blah.
I agree with you, yes some threads can get very sidetracked, but by that stage the questions have been answered, the problem solved.
Cheers all
Jo
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Follow Up By: Doggy Tease - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:45

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:45
I reckon that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ about covers this topic i reckon.

rick.

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:46

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:46
Yeah Sista. A million smileys to you.
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Follow Up By: Mark & Jo, S/side, Bris - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:52

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:52
I will whole heartedly accept those smileys OP!!!!!

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Follow Up By: Dasher Des - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:17

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:17
OK you Blonde shorty, you can climb back down off your soapbox now and go service the car or something useful. Be careful getting down now.
I wish I could insert a couple of emoticons here now ROFLMAO
They might be smileys or they might be not.
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Follow Up By: Mark & Jo, S/side, Bris - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:28

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:28
I'm off me soap box, had my say now.
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Follow Up By: Jo and Mark (Qld) - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 15:28

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 15:28
Just a test post...
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:48

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 18:48
I might add if there no members there would no site ....simple as that.

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:11

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:11
thats chicken & the egg stuff and you know it....
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:00

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:00
As I type we have one thread and 10 different conversations happening.

I guess thats a vote for the TO CHAT mob.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:10

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:10
I'll second that he he he

Steve,

You should have double the threads being a member as well as an Advertiser ;)

Cheers Kev
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Reply By: Mark & Jo, S/side, Bris - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:07

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:07
THIS IS THE QUESTION:
Do we like and/or want to keep the ability to sometimes banter and chat with our friends, or Not?
Or is it too distracting from the forum’s integrity & purpose?


IMO It is not 'too' distracting at all. If it gets a bit much for some just skip over it. All our Banter and carry on just adds to the forum. It brings smiles, laughs, light heart bagging the chit out of each other, getting to know each other.
If we didn't have any of this on the forum and every single little thing was kept to on topic, (even as I think about it) it would just make it "too sterile". The forum would be completely boring then and people then wouldn't hang around.
We are Australians for goodness sake, banter is what we do best, especially around a campfire!.
If we were to go sterile, well that would be just UNAUSTRALIAN now wouldn't it!!!! (insert smiley holding Australian flag!!!)

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:14

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:14
EO is the campfire we have when we don't have a campfire LOL

I hope we don't become sterile as there would be no up and comming members then would there ;))

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:25

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:25
Hey David, that's a thought!!!!!!!
How about a "Cyber Campfire" ????

I think Jo has just had a brilliant idea.

CYBER CAMPFIRE, I like it.

A billion smileys Jo.
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Follow Up By: Mark & Jo, S/side, Bris - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:51

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:51
ohh schucks.... thanks... (smileys with blushing cheeks inserted here!!!)
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Follow Up By: Member - Roscoe ET (QLD) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:51

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:51
I spent some time as a visitor on this site and decided to join because of the great info that I could get from Treks, Places, Topics etc.

Whenever I logged into this site as a visitor I went straight to the Forum and whilst there are a lot of interesting questions raised in the threads to me the Forum is nothing more than a chat room and the same sort of discussions that would be held around a campfire, and which would normally end up with some banter etc.

Now if you were around a campfire and got bored with the general chit chat you'd go to bed.
As we are not sitting around a campfire if you started getting bored with the general chit chat after the crux of the thread question has been answered then just move onto the next thread, or exit the site.

I get a bit of a chuckle out of the banter, I think it is part of creating a good forum and I'm sure that there have been a lot of friendships developed as a result.
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Follow Up By: Members-Neil & Margie-Cairns - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:08

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:08
Evening all ,, I think Jo has summed it up best ,, me , i don't post or reply very often , but i'm here most every night for the lighthearted entertainment we all seem to get here ,,
as a member of 4 or 5 years , my renewal came in yesterday ,, it was paid last evening ,, why ,, because i have learnt more from reading on here and i seem to have seen a whole lot of our country (finding out what i want to see) from looking over members rig pics ,, keep it the way it is , we are let know when we over step the mark ,, as Kev & Darkie said ,, EO is the campfire we have when we don't have a campfire !!

Well thats my bit , i'll go back to sleep now ..

All the best ,, Neil & Margie !!

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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:39

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:39
Sweet dreams Neil & Margie.
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Reply By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:40

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:40
"Do we like and/or want to keep the ability to sometimes banter and chat with our friends, or Not?"

Yes.

Why not??

If you do not like it, do not read it or do not reply...

What could be more simple than that???

-and "Dasher Des" just reminds me of Santa for some reason or other.......lol


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Follow Up By: Dasher Des - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:24

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:24
I dont look anything like Santa even if I was dressed up in a red suit. LOL Now your mate Willie up the road, now thats another question.
Thinking about it though, being Santa wouldn't be too bad as you would get to check out those young Mum's real close. Pity about having to have all those screaming rug rats sit on your lap though.
LOL

The dasher
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Reply By: equinox - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:52

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 19:52
This topic seems a bit-lopsided to the “chat” vote, so I’ll put my vote in against.

First of all, a topic like this is more likely to be answered by the “chat” people. Non-chatters are more likely to read this and not say anything. Therefore one can’t really “count” the votes anyway.

Here is an extract from “about us” in the top right corner:
“Please do not post jokes, or lengthen threads with personal chatting. We also advise it is better to not respond to some posts if you cannot offer a constructive response. Note - We currently have Friday dedicated to ONE thread for jokes and this is usually titled ‘Friday Funnies’.

From this it can be determined that chatting is frowned upon when lengthening threads, therefore having a thread completely dedicated to chatting to start with would also be frowned upon.
An example of this would be a thread a week or two back when somebody said they were going away to see their mum or something like that and they would be away for a week and please don’t miss them. Well I haven’t missed you yet. If you were to drive your 4wd across mountain ranges and the Simpson to get to your mum then I would be interested.

One of the things that attracted me to this Forum when I first started posting 5 years ago was that it was different to the other 4WD and camping forums as there was none of the irrelevant crap . And yes I do know that there is more to the site than the forum . I have loaded many plotfiles and places, and place descriptions too.

It would seem also that there are only a few people, maybe 10 or 15 that are chatting extremely frequently. The forum has 36557 registered users. This is hardly fair on the 36538 users who do not care for your chatting. Also this site has a dedicated messaging service for members – can’t you chat away with that?? There is also a number of readily available free chatting software as well.

Even if there was a compromise drawn up (God Help Us) and say people were asked to only post OFF TOPIC in moderation, there will always be the cowboys who do not care for others opinions. One solution would be of course to have sections ie Chatting and Off Topic threads, and On Topic Threads for example. The last person who suggested this was shot down in flames quicker than you could say “I have a good idea”.

My opinion it would seem only, but there it is....

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Alan :)))



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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:03

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:03
ha but you and I have just replied matey....he he
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:06

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:06
"Please do not ........lengthen threads with personal chatting"
The instruction from the site owners is pretty clear and unambiguous. No further correspondence will be entered into ;-))
Cheers Craig....
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:11

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:11
Lucifers advocate, nothing wrong with that!!!!

Was it Benjamin Disraeli that said:

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it"?
Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:11

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:11
yeah i wonder if that includes "vendettas", or "issues".
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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:01

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:01
G'day,

yeah well it is the bloody internet after all, so...i treat this like a campfire commune. There are no doors. There is not the one campfire, but this is the meeting place, "the big camp fire" if you like. People can come and go, be free to say what they like and others can comment (as is appropriate,) listen or not. I'll sip quietly on a single malt or stout, or just go back to my own campfire, as I please.

but...in the end, I will treat it as a camp fire. the internet, while an amazing invention, is just a tool, for better, for worse. Camp fire is a much more pleasant way of dealing with it in my mind. I applaud EO for leaving it that way, more or less, there is no other site like this I am aware of.

bloody romantic fool yes i know.......
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:25

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:25
I can just picture you at your computer with a raging fire, and any
threads that give you the sh*ts, you print and then throw into your
camp fire, but hey your right, we are all a little part of the big
picture, as members you have the chance to meet and greet, and
the best part is you can have the arse out of your pants, or be
comfortably well off, and still get treated as one of the Blokes or
Sheilas. on this great site. BETTER STOKE UP THE FIRE.

Cheers
Daza
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Follow Up By: Mark & Jo, S/side, Bris - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:15

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:15
Here Here Bush Fix!

Daz it must be your turn mate to go and get some wood!

Cheers
Jo
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Reply By: Brian (Montrose, Vic.) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:42

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:42
Evening all,
44 comments so far and counting,
Interesting to note that it is all over the topic of going off topic...
As for me I mostly just watch and listen, occasionally putting my 1 c worth in but without the off topic chatter I feel we would lose alot of the character of this site and forum, plus one gets a bit of an insight into other members etc. So I guess I'm around the banter and chit-chat camp fire, even if I'm not saying much.
Was that on-topic enough for everyone?

Cheers,
Brian T
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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:51

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:51
Just allow things to be the way they are fellas. Nothing wrong with a man or women having a bit of a say.

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: dedabato (SA) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:59

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 20:59
Weeeeeell, I don't post often but I read forum regularly. Will agree with the "camp fire" theory and will add only one small detail............ If someone wants to read specific topics, he/she should visit the "STATE LIBRARY" ( A NOTHER LOG PLEASE ??? )


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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:17

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:17
The people who state that they do not want to join as members are few and far between.

I had a bloke state that he didn't want to join as a Member because I was a 'know all' and rude too boot. Pretty spot on, he was....lol

Basically this is a Forum dedicated to travel. Many members and non members have met at various locations and have even spent time around a campfire together. A host of ideas and knowledge is exchanged amongst us all. Idle banter in some threads is bound to come up and I applaud the Site Owners for not being pedantic about wiping chit-chat out, because that will destroy this wonderful forum IMHO.


Cheers


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen - Melb) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:32

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:32
Hi Willem

I won't have you denigrating yourself on this public forum. You should stick to the topic at hand which is about chat.

By the way, how is that itch of yours?

Andrew

Can't believe I am reading this crap.....
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:43

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:43
And I can't believe you are writing this crap, young Andrew.

Slow night in the Ward, eh???....lol



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Reply By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:44

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 21:44
I think I will turn in now, someone remember to put the fire out before bed, goodnight.

I will sleep well, knowing that some good people are just a keystroke away.
Colin.

Smileys to you all, cos thats what started this whole thing.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 06:38

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 06:38
No worries Colin,

I'll just kick it in the guts again now so we can have a cooked breaky :))

Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (East Coast) - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:02

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:02
Kev I'm up now, whats for breaky ???? I had toast with an egg & baked beans, god help anyone in my bus today.
Colin.
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Follow Up By: Kev & Darkie - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:26

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 07:26
I am up to coffee number 3 and the bacon and eggs are just about done......................
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 22:42

Monday, Apr 14, 2008 at 22:42
I'm not a member so probably have no rights in this one.

I like this sites reply /followup system and it lends itself very well to keeping thread related info in the reply with anything else in the followups.

So if the thread is:

Will I get better fuel economy in my petrol toypatmitsu by using diesel.

" NO, you have to use petrol "...............goes in the big blue box

" D#*^head ".......................................goes in the orangebox

The loss of banter from the site will mean you may as well, just read a workshop manual - informative but dead boring.
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Reply By: Member - Graeme (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 03:51

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 03:51
I enjoy reading this site on the other side of the world in Africa when I am at work, as it is like a campfire. I have had many a laugh and have got a lot of information as well and at some time in my travels with my wife I hope to meet some of you. I am sure there will be some tales to tell
It is human nature there will be some thread hijacking, some stirring mixed up in the info a person is seeking or trying to get a point over.
Like most people there are some threads which do not interest me and others which catch my eye as it may be something I want to know as well, but above all tis entertainment.
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Reply By: Redback - Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:59

Tuesday, Apr 15, 2008 at 08:59
If i remember correctly, David was trying to stop this exact thing not so long ago, banter between members that were part of the CLICK as they were called, members like Bonz, Willem, Pesty, Mr & Mrs Al, Baz(NSW), Roachie, JohnR(VIC) Troopie Travellers, in fact it got so bad we had our own chat group on Yahoo and later MSN, as David didn't want it on ExplorOz.

So you may want to ask David first before you decide, he may not want it still.

Oh BTW i was Baz(NSW) in those days, yes i used to be a member, hey Willem!!

Baz.
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