Battery Charging Help

Submitted: Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:01
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Just purchased a new Ctec 7amp charger, is it ok to connect the pos and neg to the pos and neg battery terminals to charge the battery as the instructions say to connect the neg to the chassis? why?.......(100series Land Cruiser)
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Reply By: guzzi - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:21

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:21
Placing the NEG lead to the chassis removes any sparking from the immediate vicinity of the battery and any hydrogen fumes hanging around the battery vents and lessens the possibility of a fire.

Connect the leads first to the appropriate terminals and then turn the charger on will prevent most sparking, unless you drop something across the terminals.
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Follow Up By: Mike - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:38

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:38
Thanks guzzi, just what i wanted to know
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Reply By: Member - Nev (TAS) - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:42

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:42
Hi Mike,

The following URL has an extremely informative write-up on batteries. See the section headed Operating Instructions.

http://www.battery-chargers.com/charging_instructions.htm

rgds

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Reply By: howesy - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:44

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 17:44
Connecting it to the chassis also prevents surge damage to ECU's so if it has a computer then stick to it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 20:14

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 20:14
Really ???? How can it do that ?
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Follow Up By: howesy - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 20:22

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 20:22
Mainly to do with jump starting cars with ECU's it reduces arcing at the postive terminal as you connect which can surge through the power wires. The arcing of the earth at the chassis as its connected is far less likely to spike the computer. Auto elec told me this is the way to go or buy surge protect leads.
Just thought I would put it in for a handy tip but thankyou anyway the sarcasm is always appreciated. :-)
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 19:49

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 19:49
Mike,

The comments re sparking are relevant to wet cell lead acid batteries only.

If the battery is an AGM then no "explosive" gasses are vented externally and potential of fire, etc., from sparking will not apply.

I'm not aware of any difference in location of the earthing point that would have any effect on surge damage to ECU's.
You connect the negative clamp from the charger to the battery, which in turn has a heavy duty earth lead running to the chassis, or engine block. Same result.

I just connect the positive and negative clamps to the appropriate terminals of my auxiliary battery, or primary battery, when I need to apply a charge from the Ctek.

Now, when using jumper leads, that is a different situation, due to the high current introduced and the fact that one of the batteries (in the problem vehicle) is dead flat. In this case, both vehicles have the negative lead connected to the engine block for optimum safety.

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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 20:17

Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 20:17
Any decent charger design design will have a sensing circuit so it will not apply full power until it has sensed a stable battery voltage, to prevent sparking.

If you are charging a battery out of the vehicle, you can't connect the Neg. to the chassis.
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