4wd trip Hay River/Lake Caroline

Submitted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 16:20
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Hi to all you out there. We are thinking of a trip from Birdsville out along the Hay River. Does anyone have any info or problems with this. I have taken a copy of the trek notes from Stephen L and will of course apply for permits, but would like some info from Poepple corner to Lake Caroline if anyone has it. Thanks
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 16:53

Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 16:53
champagne,

This is a fantastic part of the world.

If you follow the pace notes you should not have a problem. I went there for the first time last year and the only thing that I can think of is that when you drive in to the dry river bed you have to drive back in the opposite direction that you have come from to get to Lake Caroline.

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Follow Up By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:44

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:44
Hi Wayne. Your photos look terrific and sure do whet the appetite for our trip up there in about 6 weeks, 3 vehicles and a few old fellas on bikes plus a couple of kids. Do you have a preferred spot for a days camp other than an established spot such as Batten Hill. Looking for a day off with no travel but want to make sure it fully represents what the area has to offer, ie the pick of the river spots. Cheers. Leigh
(PS I last caught up with you at the top of Billy Goat and Talbotville when you'd had a couple of mech issues)
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:44

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:44
Leigh,

I have only been on that trip once and have not had a chance to explore alternative camp sites.

There are plenty of places to camp and most are on the dry river bed. Staying for a day in the one camp site should not be a problem.


How long ago did we meet at Talbotville?

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Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 18:20

Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 18:20
Wayne's said it all. A great trip. BUT - not one to be underestimated. This is the Simpson Desert. You should have good HF comms, GPS, a capable vehicle and at least one other capable vehicle with you. ( could save a lot of digging!). If you need an Ozi plot file, send me a member message.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 18:55

Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 18:55
Hi Champagne
Like others have said above. There are a few good size dunes after Beachcomber Oil Well Site until the bottom of the Hay River. You will require 4X4, but they are no problem if you know what you are doing. Once you reach the bottom of the Hay River, you will be following well defined tracks that will only require 2 wheel drive, proving that it is not wet. If it is, find a good camp site and sit it out. You will have a ball and is very different from other parts of the Simpson.
When you reach Batton Hill, they will be the best showers after your stay in the desert and Lindsay and his family will make you feel at home. Take your time and stay a little longer, and you will see why it is becoming a very popular Simpson Desert Trip.


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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 22:26

Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 22:26
This route although becoming more popular is fairly remote & for a time you will be unlikely to see another group therefore requires a higher level of preparation & self reliance. If your group has driven the Simpson before there is nothing you will come across that is exceptionally harder to drive just the need to navigate over some sections that may have no tracks. Following the Hay up past Lake Caroline is 2wd & straight forward as long as it's not flowing.
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Reply By: champagne - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 11:37

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 11:37
Thanks to you all for your comments. We have crossed the Simpson before (twice) so sort of know what we may be in for, and yes we certainly are going with another vehicle. You have all made us look forward even more for the journey. As another question, does anyone have an alternative route other than back the Plenty to Qld, or down the Old Andado for around that area.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 11:53

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 11:53
Hi Champagne
If you are doing this trip from Birdsville, your trip will finish at Batton Hill. From there out to the Plenty Highway, you have no other options. From the Plenty junction if you need fuel, turn to your right for Jervois Station. From here it is either back to Alice Springs of Keep going back into Queensland. If you are heading back into the Alice and have never done the Old Andado Track, then this is a MUST DO. Check out my trek file here on EO for the Old Andado Track. Make this a 2 day trip to Mount Dare and you will not be sorry.


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Reply By: Tol - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:19

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:19
Hi Champagne, If you decide to go West towards Alice why not take a couple of extra days and turnoff on the 4x4 Cow Creek track through Mt Riiddock Stn to Altunga Historic Area. Pleasant and scenic drive. From Altunga head out to the fascinating Ruby Gap. Allow a good day for Ruby Gap or even camp out their. Then do Old Andado etc... Enjoy.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:20

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:20
Hi Champagne

If you have a Yahoo id there is large report detailing some of the real issues and Plots on my Yahoo site as below.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bush_family_camping_in_VIC/
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