Small chainsaw for firewood

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Wanting to purchase a small chainsaw to carry in my van. Will use saw mainly to cut firewood but have no knowledge of chainsaw brands, sizes etc. Can anybody assist with advice in this area please.
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Reply By: Member - beachbum - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 15:21

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 15:21
Gooday there Sprint and I recently brought a 009 Stihl with a 14 inch bar for much the same use as you envisage. I had a small McCulloch for many years but couldn't get parts for it in the end and then brought a cheap Chinese product from Big W. and it was useless. Most times I could not get it to start and after much asking and thinking it really only came down to two brands IMO, the Husqvarna and the Stihl and in the end went with the Stihl and am very happy with it. Regards and happy travelling
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 15:40

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 15:40
SPRINT-GTO,

Small chainsaw for fire wood. Sounds like a good swap.

I would go for the biggest small chainsaw that you are comfortable with.

Learn how to use it if you haven't already done a course.

Keep the chains sharp and always carry at least 2 sharp chains.

As for brands, I have had a Husqvarna Rancher 16". Use it for fire wood also clearing fallen trees in the Vic High Country.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - Luke (SA) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:07

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:07
I could have done with a chainsaw last week while in Tassie on the Montezuma falls track.

We drove 12klm out of the 14klm and came across a tree that had fallen from the higher side of the track. I looked up to see what was involved to try and drag it down and over the other side but I would've brought down a couple of more trees with it so decided it was a job for someone with a chainsaw.

We both walked the last 2k's


Cheers Luke
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:00

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:00
Gday,
This is what Ive got.....Not exactly small but a bloody good saw.
Its about equivilant to a farm boss yet has more guts and is more user friendly. eg quick release air filter, side chain adjuster, decompressor.....

ECHO
CS6702
Model No: CS6702

- Inertia chain brake
- Side adjust chain tensioner
- Automotive style air filter (larger surface area)
- Externally adjustable automatic oiler
- Clean air system pre-cleaned by flywheel
- 6 position antivibration cushions on rear handle
- Vibration reduced throttle trigger
- Automatic choke return
- Alloy crankcase
- Automatic disengage decompressor for easy starting
- Advancing ignition timing for peak power
- Clip on airfilter cover
- Manual oiler overide
- 5 Year Domestic Warranty
- 1 Year Commercial Warranty

Engine Type 2 - Cycle
Capacity 66.7cc
Power Output 4.25kw
Weight 6.2kg
Bar Lenght 20inch


Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - David P (VIC) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:20

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:20
My neighbour has an ECHO and have used it, seemed to me a good quality unit FWIW....cheers ...silverback
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:52

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:52
That's a big expensive saw for Sprint GTO to pick up the odd bit of firewod. Nice size for track clearing up the High Country though.
Cheers Craig................
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 17:20

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 17:20
Crackles,
Yeah it is a fair size, but it depends how much you enjoy collecting firewood.
Do you want to spend an hour or so to get a load or the whole day?
Its not my favorite past time so I like to do it quick.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:11

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:11
Hairy

Seems to me that's a bit of an over kill for a man to have a shave in the morning......

Regards

Kim
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:32

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:32
Gday Kim,

Its not just for shaving.....Bloody Hell!
I really bought it for carving the roast and for whittleing slingshots for the kids.
Come on ...Im not that silly!

LOL
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:11

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:11
"Do you want to spend an hour or so to get a load or the whole day?"
Yes well I'm guilty on that front as well using a StihlMS660 magnum"
Then again one never knows how big the fallen tree will be around the next corner ;-)
Cheers Craig...........






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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, May 19, 2008 at 12:26

Monday, May 19, 2008 at 12:26
After some of the wind we had through the burnt areas you could nearly wear your saw out just north of here Craig trying to do 100km off road. You might even find it a bit small....

Dave
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:45

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 16:45
A compact saw for casual use is the Stihl MS192T. It's actually an arborist's saw but with a 30cm bar & a top handle is very easy to pack yet able to cut a fair log off a track if need be.
Next size up for occasional use would be the mini boss which has a 40cm bar, easy to use features yet light enough to handle comfortably.
Stihl is an excellent brand with a good dealer network that will give long trouble free service & have an extensive selection of saws in the range you are looking. Suggest you speak to a dealer to recommend the best model for your application.

Cheers Craig.................
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Reply By: Gazal Champion - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 17:03

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 17:03
Hi Sprint,
Get a stihl, you will only have to buy it once if you do.

I have had 5 over 25 years and have still got 3 of them. of the others 1 got stolen and the other I traded on a better model.

Learn how to mix the fuel yourself, use the right type of oil in the mix, keep it sharpened and last but by no means least, DONT LEND IT to anyone.
Cheers,
Bruce.
At home and at ease on a track that I know not and
restless and lost on a track that I know. HL.

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Reply By: Isuzumu - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 17:05

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 17:05
Hi Sprint-GTO, this is all you need, Talon 38cc petrol chain saw, pretty sure it was under $200. I've had one for two years now and for what you need it is great, local hardware store.
Cheers Bruce.
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Reply By: howesy - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 18:01

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 18:01
I went for the much cheaper yanky saw the poulon 38cc and its done heaps of work worn out two chains and it still starts and runs great. Never been serviced just dismantled and cleaned after every camping trip. I do about 4 to 6 a year the saw is over 5 yrs old. Best couple a hundred I ever spent.
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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 18:26

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 18:26
Just an aside to this post, seasoned timber as I understand it, makes for the best firewood.
Using a chainsaw would kill the teeth in no time.

The other side of the coin, a good saw would drop through green timber like the proverbial 'hot knife', but who would try burning green timber.

Just wondering !!!

Cheers.....Lionel.
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Follow Up By: Member - 120scruiser (NSW) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:53

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:53
Its the chain you use.
For green timber or soft wood you use a full chisel chain.
For hard wood use a semi chisel or half round tooth.
If you use a full chisel chain in hard wood it will be blunt in no time at all. They can also be dangerous with kick back. A full round chain is the best for inexperienced as they are much safer and more forgiving if they hit the dirt. Especially for people who haven't got the gear or don't know how to sharpen by hand out in the scrub.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 23:06

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 23:06
Ahhh !!! thanks mate, retired the saw and went with a good heavy axe.

Will dig the old Poulan out and check the chain.

Cheers.....Lionel.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 18:27

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 18:27
I'll put in a vote for a cheapie, bought a Talon for $160 nearly three years ago.

It does exactly what you require. Never had a problem with it.

Jim.



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Follow Up By: Member - Roger B (VIC) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:57

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:57
Got the same Jim. $158.00 in Big W early in the year. So far it's done everything I require of it.Cut up some fairly heavy timber at a friends block in the Barrington Tops while we were staying up that way. It'll get a test on the Central Qld. gemfields in a couple of months time.Good chain oil and 2 stroke oil,spare SHARP chains and a bit of TLC and I reckon it'll be OK.

Roger B.
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:18

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:18
Gday Sprint...

I'll go a different direction....ryobi cordless!

I have one, was very skeptical when I got it but has done things it was definately not suposed to - like felling a tree the bar was only just the radius of the trunk...sure it has nothing on a petrol jobbie, but for a bit of fire wood, great for pruning jobs (very lightweight, can operate one hand and carry up a tree you are climbing....and can also take a fall from a few metres up!)

They also have a 12v charger, and numerous other tools off the same battery size (finally!). I have the drill, recipro saw, chain saw and fluro light. the fluro and chainsaw always come camping. no petrol, no oil, no mixing fuel, no noise etc etc.....I think it is a great piece of gear, and any that I have camped with chuckle when I get it out, but cut 3 or 4 5 inch logs in half for the campfire and they have a second look!

Cheers ANdrew
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:28

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:28
Sensational suggestion Andrew.

I've got the Ryobi 18V circ saw at the factory, with two batts and will be adding other items as needed. Very impressive little saw.

How long do you get out of battery, or should I ask how much wood will it cut on a charge?

Jim.



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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:41

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:41
Gday Jim

You don't get a lot from a battery....but you get a few nights worth of firewood from each battery. I have 4, so rarely take a charger (most of my trips are 3 nights or so. It took about 6 batterys to cut a bigish tamerin tree down, including breaking it right down for removal single handedly in a 6x4 trailer. At a guess you'd get 20 cuts through 3 to 4 inch logs, but varies greatly.

I used to be in the trade, and used to err on the more expensive tools, but the one battery system and price converted me to ryobi. (for cordless tools anyway)

I am tempted by the cordless caulking gun....how lazy is that!

Cheers Andrew



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Follow Up By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:47

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:47
Next you will want a cordless nissan and cordless tinny...grin
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 22:48

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 22:48
http://www.mindspring.com/~jimkerr1/sebc&t.htm
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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:22

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:22
Sthil 390. Also have an Echo 550 which I have had for over 25 years and it's still going strong. Both had 20" bars but changed the Echo over to a 16 last year which suits it better, and its the one I take camping. Good power, small bar, sharp chain.
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Reply By: Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:26

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:26
Just remember this, You get what you pay for and you can't use them in a National Park.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Harry - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:56

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 19:56
Yes you can, you just might cop a fine for doing so, if they catch you :>))
A chainsaw is the most dangerous tool invented, get professional training so you don't chop into your leg or get whacked by widow maker.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tessa (NSW) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:18

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:18
Good one Harry. I guess you drive on the right hand side of the road all day too, until you get caught. I haven't seen a chain saw yet with a silencer!! "Here I am Mr Ranger, come and get me"

tessa
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:22

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:22
>you can't use them in a National Park.

In that case you'll never be able to drive anywhere in the Victorian High Country. Parks Vic advise people to take them.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:21

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:21
Sprint ,

Just got a sthil copy off ebay for $170 + 50 postage 22" bar and 62cc sure beats a 34cc talon for $2-300

I didnt want a small underpowered saw , but also didnt want to pay big bucks for something I would only use to cut firewood, One of the guys I work with got one , after seeing how good it was for the money all the guys are bidding on them .

The guy that sells them is in Oz + you can get spares , also comes with U.S. chain ,

Just dont be over eager cause there are heaps there , dearest I have seen went for $260.

Hope this helps you out.

Glenn.
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Reply By: Member - Gaz@Gove (NT) - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:27

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 20:27
While the subject is in the air -- I have a Ryobi 16" petrol saw (5 years old) and a mate of mine has a Talon 16" petrol saw (12 months old.)
They are dam near identical apart from the plastic colour and the decals.
Are they the same ????????
Did Talon buy them out or something?? Does anyone know?
Mmmmmmmm, now where do we go next?

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Reply By: harlequin - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:08

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 21:08
use to make a livin cutting fence posts & felling used all top brands stihl husky solo rex go the stihl you wil only buy it once as stated the 009 comes in two motor sizes 30 something cc & 40 something go the bigger one for grunt everything else on em is the same last one i had came from me dads farm it was bought in 1985 and died last year roller bearings sucked up tranfer ports just worn out after 22 years of hard farm work live and dead wood on a side note you can still cut dead wood successfully just clear all dirt off outside sand/silica is hellishly abrasive i can cut a trailer load of dead myall with one chain before sharpening learn to use saw sharpening file in a jig and just give it a couple strokes 3-5 each tooth equally on all each side shouild be all it takes and learn the push/ pull characteristics of any rotating machinery to avoid injury. good luck
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Reply By: Splits - Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 22:46

Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 22:46
Sprint - GTO

Back in 1988 I bought a little Stihl 010AV just to cut a up a few trees that had to be cut down to build my house and because I thought one would be a handy thing to have.

Two years later my employer transferred me to the Snowy
Mountains for five years and I cut 15 tons of wood each year with the poor little thing. Some logs were so big that its 14 inch bar would not reach into the centre. I used to think any second it was going to clap out and I would have to buy a larger one like the Farm Boss.

It has not had a lot of use since then but has accounted for a few dead trees around the neighbourhood and a huge Stringy Bark a couple of weeks ago that was blown over in the big storm that hit Sydney in the middle of last year.

Despite all of this it is still running perfectly and is now going out on some 4b trips.

In the last couple of years I have been stripping many worn out chain saws, lawnmowers and line trimmers that have been donated to a local church by a large mower/chainsaw shop. The church sells the aluminium to raise money for its missions. I have been given all the lower price brands that are sold by Bunnings, Kmart etc plus plenty of Briggs and Stratton engines and even a few Hondas but never anything from Stihl or Husky.

If my little one ever gives up, it will be replaced by another Stihl.

Just a few tips if you buy one: apart from the obvious safety precautions you must take, make sure you know how to sharpen a chain by hand in the bush. I have lost count of the number of 4b drivers I have seen trying to cut through a fallen tree with a chain so blunt it would not cut any better if it had a V8 hooked up to it. All you need is a bit of knowledge and a small round file. Any chainsaw shop will sell you the correct size one for your chain. I used to touch mine up after every second tank full and it made the world of difference.

If each tooth on the chain is not finished like a little razor sharp wood chisel, you are going to find it tough going for yourself you will and shorten the life of your engine considerably.

Another thing is don't cut through charcoal on a burnt tree because it will take the edge off your chain. Also clean any dirt off wood that has been lying on the ground. I used to cut dirty bark away with an axe before putting the saw through it or rub a log with no bark with a wire brush.

Brian
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