Is it legal?

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:51
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Hi All,
Is it legal to tow more than one trailer at a time? Hypothetically, if you say had a camper trailer, could you say tow a tinnie or motorbike trailer behind it?
I mean, road trains do it (with the appropriate license) but if you kept the total towed weight behind the car within the limits of the towing vehicle limitations could you do it?

Over to you guys................

Cheers, Matt

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Reply By: Member - Littleborgy (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:53

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:53
Hi Matt,

There was a thread on this a while ago (couple of months back, i think).

From memory the answer was "NO"

Cheers, Brad
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Follow Up By: RosscoH - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:00

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:00
Definately a NO, have looked into it myself and there is a rule saying only one item can be towed behind conventional passenger vehicles. Thats in Queensland anyway and I think you will find the same in all states.
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Follow Up By: On Patrol - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:02

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:02
Brad,
I dont know of a law that says you cannot!!!!!!! in NSW.
I dont know of a law that says you can!!!!!!! in NSW.

So, if no law says you cannot, you can.
Thats my logic. BUT no way would I try it.

I have "heard of" a guy in Sydney that towed a box trailer & a cement mixer at the same time, but that was hearsay, as far as I know.
Colin.
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Follow Up By: Member - Littleborgy (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:04

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:04
Just found the thread

Thread 57188

Cheers, Brad
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:44

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:44
Thanks Littleborgy & others who have emailed me.
I did read that thread just then, and some (no names mentioned), think that a question like this maybe "taking the bleep " to quote the reader's eloquent language.
However, I am not. I missed this thread due to work obligations interstate (God, Queen & Country - for those who know of me), and I am genuinely curious.
I'd like to be able to take our camper trailer and perhaps a scooter with us on our next extended sojourn and that's why I asked this forum.

Doesn't look promising however.

Thanks for all the replies - keep 'em coming!

Cheers, Matt
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:55

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 20:55
It is allowed in South Africa. Car, caravan, trailer sailer/tinnie or car, caravan, trailer

It may be legal(Ihave heard of it.....hearsay) if you have the appropriate licence and the towed vehicles all have electric or independant brakes.


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:00

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:00
Probably OK in Outer Mongolia too- but I think this inquiry is for Australia !!

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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:07

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:07
Sometimes Signman...you are a PITA
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Reply By: KennyBWilson - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:03

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:03
The answer is YES

Councils and other companies do it all the time BUT you need the right type of vehicle up front

No you can't do it with a basic 4wd
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Reply By: DIO - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:04

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:04
Short answer NO. Gee some people have no end of trouble managing just one trailer.
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Reply By: Member - Tessa (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:48

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 21:48
Matt
This is the L A W law in NSW
ROAD TRANSPORT (SAFETY AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT) (ROAD RULES) REGULATION 1999 - REG 48
Number of vehicles that may be drawn
48 Number of vehicles that may be drawn
(cf MTR, r 114)

(1) A person must not use or cause or permit to be used on a road:
(a) an articulated vehicle drawing any motor or other vehicle or trailer, or
(b) any other motor vehicle drawing more than one motor or other vehicle or trailer,
unless written permission is first obtained from the Commissioner of Police and all conditions of the permission are strictly complied with.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.


sorry I dont know about the other states.

tessa
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Reply By: Member - shane (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:03

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:03
Hi Matt, I live in Adelaide and there is a guy here that has a rubbish removal business, he leaves trailers at your house and you fill them up and he comes along and takes them away. i have seen him tow three empty trailers and drop them off at different places. after talking to him about it he said it was legal.
i also see the council over here doing it.
hope this helps.
Shane.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:28

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:28
Yep, the Marree Road Crew tow four trailers on the Birdsville Track without using a prime mover. Councils must get special dispensation.

Cheers
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:53

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2008 at 22:53
Gday,
Why would you even try?
You couldnt possibly total enough weight to keep the rear trailer on the road????

Buy something bigger.

Cheers
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Reply By: westozal - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:17

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:17
Hi all,
I recall seeing an article in a magazine or newspaper a couple of years ago about a bloke in Albany in WA whom had a GU Nissan trayback which he towed both a caravan and then a boat behind that. He had to have a roadtrain licence I Believe. There was a picture with the article so you could see the rig all together.
Regards Alan.
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Reply By: jomah - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 18:55

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 18:55
interesting replies matt. Youre getting a couple of yes votes ; a few more no votes ; a maybe ,and a fair swag of "buggered if I know"s. Sounds like a job (question) for the professionals - the cops.I think I would lean toward their reckoning as they are the ones who hand out the traffic violation tickets and they can be very expensive.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 19:46

Wednesday, Jun 18, 2008 at 19:46
Whilst some jump on the "NO" answer, i can't find where it says IN SA legislation that you can't! IS there any legislation that specifically says that it is unacceptable (like NSW and Qld examples given)?

Can someone cite the clause etc for future reference? I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, just that it is hard to find :-)

It would be better to answer this question with facts, not hearsay....

Andrew
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:04

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:04
I can't believe someone that would even think of asking such a stupid question. Yes, thats right their are stupid questions.

Or is it a bleep take?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:38

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:38
Sounds like a stupid answer to me....

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:40

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:40
Wizard1,
Maybe to you it was a stupid question to you buddy, but luckily the vast majority of readers out there hopefully don't share your sentiments.
I humbly apologise to all readers of this forum that I am unable to spend every waking hour glued to my computer looking at this site, and follow every thread written.
A couple words of advice Wizard1 - your posts will have far more "wow" factor if you concentrate your efforts on your spelling, punctuation and grammar rather than commenting on a thread that obviously upsets you.
You see folks, this is the beauty of free speech in this country - something that I have spent over 18 years defending as a member of the ADF.
I'll drive on people, because I'm over it!

Cheers, Matt
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:20

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:20
Perhaps you could try a few transport department webistes first.

Here is a link to the RTA trailer one which makes it easy to understand.

RTA Towing Trailers

Oh andf here is someting from Transport QLD
Legal requirements
To ensure the safety of yourself and other road users, you must abide by the laws governing the towing of trailers. These are:
• the vehicle and trailer must comply with all relevant standards for registration;
• the vehicle and trailer must be in a roadworthy and safe condition;
• all trailers must be fitted with a rear number plate and a registration label fixed to the left side
or rear of the body, with the label facing outward;
• towbars and couplings must not obscure the towing vehicle’s number plate or rear lights when
the trailer is not connected;
• towing more than one trailer is prohibited;
• people are not permitted to ride in trailers or caravans; and
• the speed limit for a vehicle towing a trailer is the same as for a normal vehicle.

Seems to be a universal theme here.

I do note that SA Transport info on towing trailers doesn't actaully say you can't do it. Perhaps they assume that no one is silly enough to try, but hen again we ave one here.

Why not contact the SA transport and give them a bit of a laugh.

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Follow Up By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:44

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:44
Wizard1,
Refer to the post above. Incidentally, I cant seem to find a member's profile on you. Why is that?

Cheers, Matt
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Reply By: KennyBWilson - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:21

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:21
In South Australia it is Legal as long as the Towing Vehicle has a GVM of 4500kgs
and any trailers have brakes if over 750kgs,
more than likely the first trailer would have brakes
and of course you can't exceed the GCM of towing vehicle

That is the rule !!
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 19:52

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 19:52
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:50

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:50
Matt M,
Nice work mate!

Cheers, Matt H!
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Reply By: Member - Matt H (SA) - Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:56

Thursday, Jun 19, 2008 at 20:56
All,
Many thanks for all the replies. It appears the answer is no, however it does depend on what state your in, or what you tow with.
The more succinct replies have been duly noted, while a couple of others can be read by my budgie at the bottom of his cage. I'm sure he'll pass judgement on them - probably straight after his breakfast.

Cheers, Matt
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