Battery cut out device

Submitted: Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:26
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OK, so far many of you have been more than helpful recently with advise on a charger for my deep cycle battery, how to calculate how long it will run a given appliance etc.
One more question & then I will be set!! Thanks.
I need a cut out device that will automatically stop the battery from discharging below about 30% of it's capacity. ( about 11.6 Volts?)
I phoned Jaycar this arvo & they have one, but it comes in kit form & you solder it together apparently. I haven't got any specs at this stage, the bloke said it costs about $25 or $30 & was easy to assemble. & yes I have a soldering iron & can make just as big as mess with it as anyone else, no troubles!!
I would appreciate it if anybody out there can point me in the right direction. Thanks
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Reply By: Notso - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:32

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:32
I think Engel and Waeco have one
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Reply By: Ray - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:39

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:39
I baught one from Derek Bester fro ARB. He advertises on this forum
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:48

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 17:48
Try Jaycar part No MS6120. Off the shelf part.

11.2v cutout. 10 amp rating though

cigerette socket connection, which I cut off mine to wire into the plug that feeds the connection to the fridge.

$19.95

Listed under batteries/battery tester on their web page catalogue.

Derek at ABR also sells something very similar.
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Reply By: TD100 - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 18:48

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 18:48
Mine is from a solar dealer,11v6 cutout@20A. good unit,cant remember where i got it from but it was about 10 years ago.i will have a look at its brand tomorrow,google some solar dealers and see if you can locate one. cheers Paul
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:11

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:11
Barry,

Projecta make one. About $30 from Kmart, Repco, etc.

ODP500 Battery Discharge Protector

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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:29

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:29
Thank you to you all for your help, much appreciated.
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 22:38

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 22:38
Hi
The projecta is a good unit shuts "off"@ 11.6V , GOOD FOR PREVENTING OVER DISCHARGE OF AUX BATTERY .
But I would not like to rely on it for main especially if its deisell
Current rating is 10amps.
You could use it to operate higher rating relay if load requires it
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Reply By: Member - Raymond S (WA) - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:34

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:34
ENGLE HAVE THEM IN TWO VOLTAGES,10.4 AND 11.4 VOLTS.I HAD MINE FITTED BY CENTRAL 4X4,PERTH. A RELAY IS FITTED INTO THE HARD WIRING LOOM,IT WILL SHUT DOWN POWER FROM 2nd BATTARY SO YOU STILL HAVE POWER IF MAIN BATT IS LOW.

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Reply By: kcandco - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:55

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 19:55
I have one fitted in the wiring to my fridge and have always wondered if 11.2 volts left in the starter battery really is enough to start a car? has anyone actually tested one?

Kc
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 20:13

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 20:13
The tables showing battery voltage versus state-of-charge are ONLY meaningful if you measure the voltage when there has been no charge or discharge of the battery for several hours.

You can stop discharging a battery at 10.0 volts and still have 80% charge left in the battery - if the load was several hundred amps.

Do NOT count on a voltage cutout to guarrantee remaing battery capacity - you must use a capacity gauge.
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Reply By: Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 21:57

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 21:57
Simple disconnect systems are available.





As mentioned the battery will take time to recover and these devices will only reconnect the load when the battery reaches the cut in voltage of approx 12.5V.

When the disconnect takes place under load the battery should be at approx 30% based on an average load with a compressor fridge or some lighting.



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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 22:21

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 22:21
There is a Redarc one in my Karavan to protect the batteries. Thing is that such things take about .6amp to keep the solenoid open. It wiill then close when the voltage drops. A bit to learn about with all those sorts of things and the way they work.
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Reply By: autosparky - Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 23:11

Monday, Jun 23, 2008 at 23:11
redarc smart solenoid
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 13:06

Tuesday, Jun 24, 2008 at 13:06
You mention the Jaycar kits. I've made up a bunch of these - mostly the older style one which uses a small 10A relay (I think you can still get the relay kits at DSE). The downside is that they use 30 milliamps of current continuously, so if your vehicle sits unused for say a week or two, you'll be running the battery down. So I only had it installed when the fridge was running. They also had a nice override switch, so you could restart it at less than 12.5V. The voltage cutout is variable, just by adjusting a variable resistor. The kit was easy to build, takes about an hour.

Jaycar now use a kit that uses transistors instead of the relay. This means it only uses about 8 milliamps. To vary the cutout, you have to install resistors of different values. If you raise the cutout voltage, you also raise the voltage at which it kicks back in. I made one up, which worked for a couple of years, but died recently.

My question is, why would you buy a kit for $30, when you can buy a nice one like Derek's for the same money.

There are a heap more out there now. I personally don't bother any more. I've increased my battery capacity, and I monitor voltage with a digital voltmeter to 2 decimal places. I'm in the habit of checking the voltmeter morning and night, and I don't let any of my batteries go below 12.0V. The voltage does swing around a bit (goes down when the fridge cycles), but once you get to know what the voltage means in your vehicle and with your accessories, then its a very useful monitor.
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Reply By: neil&brenda - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 00:13

Wednesday, Jun 25, 2008 at 00:13
Sure,If you are confident enough, go ahead and get a kit. If not, buy a finished unit. Unless you are a fanatic and check your voltages every hour or so, I suggest a cutout system as an asset to your battery/van system. Bottom line. Can it hurt?
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