Is there an easy way to move a trailer thats not conected to a vehicle?

Submitted: Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:11
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A number of times I have to position my trailer in soft dirt or sand where I cannot get my vehicle. I purchased a bigger jockey wheel, but can still take a bit of work to move. Is there any tricks or add on that would help. Too many disputes with the cheese and kisses.
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Reply By: Member - John G- Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:19

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:19
G'day wato

We've started looking at the maco mule ratchet jockey wheel. It's expensive tho' ($450+). Don't know how it'd go in sand / soft dirt. Will be interesting to see other replies.

Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: wato35 - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:24

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:24
John

Hope there is something a lot cheaper. If not the wife will have to push harder!
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Follow Up By: Member - John G- Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 18:20

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 18:20
Sort of agree with you wato, but add up the cost of a trip to the doc, followed by three or four to the physio, and you've probably paid for the wheel. Sometimes the silences after after heavy pushing are so frosty that you need to buy a new polartech jacket, so add another $100.

Still doesn't answer the sand / dirt question altho' having a short piece of plank to put fore or aft of the jockey wheel, or a rubber mat, may be enough to get things moving.

Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Member - shane (SA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 18:54

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 18:54
i use a cheep $100.00 boat winch. you can hook it up to the house battery by anderson plugs. you can put it on the back or front using a short strap and rated bow shackle. works real well and can Even use a snatch block.
cheers shane.
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:24

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:24
Get your half grown son [mine's 25].

Tell him how it's amazing the way he can lift and push things nowawdays, and how you wish you had his strength....

He'll puff out his chest and fling that trailer wherever you want... add some of his mates... and you're laughing!

The best and easiest way... but it uses the vehicle... is often to have a removeable towball on your bullbar. Then you can often manoever [spelling?] a trailer more easily.

Others use a ride on mower, or 4wheel bike..

I guess you might be talking about camping spots.... under those circumstances... choose a better spot!

Cheers Royce
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:31

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:31
I agree with John.

I have a Maco Mule (dual wheel model) to move my camper from the carport, turning 90 degrees to manoeuvre it to its resting place.

The Maco Mule utilises a ratchet drive system to apply a turning force to the wheel, in either direction by the flick of a lever. It's slow, but does the job without undue strain.

Tip.
If you need to mount the Mule on the right (driver's side) of the A-frame, the dual wheel model will enable this. I don't believe the single wheel model can be placed on the right side as the operating handle will foul with the A-frame.
If you have a removable jockey wheel, mounted on the left side and held by an opening clamp, you won't need a separate clamp.
Just prop something underneath the A-frame to support it and swap the jockey wheels.

As John also stated, they are not cheap, but are still much cheaper than an electric powered solution which is in the order of $2000.

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Reply By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:51

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 15:51
Hi wato, Try using small plastic chocks behind each wheel and by pushing the tow ball end of the trailer sideways the wheels will pop out of the hole easier and keep moving chocks foward helps if your trailer has breaks but if not ask someone to keep moving each side as you crab forward.

Cheers Michael H
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 16:11

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 16:11
Agree with that one.
Leverage works, working the trailer forward, or back against a hill a little at a time, against the chocks. The wife makes it quicker by volunteering to move the chocks.

With age is supposed to come wisdom, but it takes a while to engage sometimes.
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Reply By: Philip A - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 17:04

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 17:04
A trick to turn caravans was shown to me by a caravan storage place in Perth.
Let the jockey wheel right down . This changes the point of balance to the back, so makes it easier to move sideways .

Simple and it worked.
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: KennyBWilson - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:58

Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:58
Th is will work for a trailer with tandem wheels on hard surface not soft sand
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Reply By: Saharaman (aka Geepeem) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 17:20

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 17:20
HI Wato,

I use an Ezimover ratchet type jockey wheel.
They are uner $100 from Supercheap
(I got mine for $79 but it was on special).
I think you can also get via Ebay.
I use mine to manouvre a 2700kg caravan to hook up to 4x4.
I'm not sure how they would go on sand or soft areas but if its not a real heavy boat they might be OK.
Cheers,
GPM
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Follow Up By: Nutta - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 19:50

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 19:50
Might sound silly but to help get it in you could carry around 2 or 3 strips (12" wide, 3 or 4 ft long) of fairly heavy carpet rolled up, shouldnt take up to much room, just roll them out under the wheels. makes it float a lot easier over sand.
To get it out again i sometimes put the snatch on front and gently back out, another person can stand midway and pull the strap either way for steer.

Cheers, Wayne.


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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 17:51

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 17:51
Its all about traction - I had read elsewhere that the ratchet type jocket wheel movers are next to useless on any loose surfaces when trying to move a weighty trailer / van - makes sense to me - no traction for the jockey - solid surfaces are a whole different story.
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 18:25

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 18:25
Another question, moving a tandem wheel caravan around a tight corner on solid ground without a car attached. Is there an easy way of doing it. Caravan weighs around 2700 kg.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 19:56

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 19:56
GEORGE; the way i move my tandem car trailer around is to wind the jockey wheel rite up so one axle is off the ground so its only on one axle,hope that helps.
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Follow Up By: wigger - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 20:09

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 20:09
Mark G ,
there is an easy way to move any dual axle trailer. Go round to the back of it and grab the bar on the tail gate. Lift it so that the back wheels are clear of the ground and then turn it or manoeuver it . Easier than doing it from the front
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark G (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 20:14

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 20:14
WIGGER; cheers mate,i will try that next time.
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 23:15

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 23:15
Hi Mark, with the jockey wheel right up it becomes a bit unstable and 4 wheels still on the ground. It has 340 kg on the tow hitch in a normal position with all wheels taking the weight of the van
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 23:17

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 23:17
Hi Wigger, there is no way that you can lift the back of the van, till the rear wheels are clear of the ground, Van weighs 2.7 T
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Follow Up By: wigger - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 22:53

Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 22:53
George I said " dual axle trailer" not Van
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Reply By: Member - Robin M (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:00

Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:00
Hello Wato,

I attach a tree trunk protector to the jockey wheel - the end loops slip over the shaft quite easily - and I use it like the last bloke on a tug-o-war team. Great exercise for the legs ! Together with the help of a ratchet-type pneumatic-tyred jockey wheel to get started, I am able to move a 16 foot caravan around by myself on consolidated gravel.

I modified the ratchet lever of the jockey wheel so that I could pull on it as well as steer with it. Simply weld a piece of 25mm RHS tubing to the bracket the jockey wheel spins in and use a retaing bolt to temprarily hold it in place. I use the ratchet type jockey wheel on the trailer when I know it's going to be jeavily laden.

When the ground surface is too soft, I also enlist the help of the cheese and kisses.
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:44

Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:44
wato35.

I guess if soft dirt or sand is the issue then any sort of wheel will be a problem.
Consider this, get a short handle "shovel" (you know the wide blade type) put the blade under the jockey wheel, fix the handle to the trailer, attach a strap extension to the trailer and the vehicle. Now use the shovel as a ski.
Its been done before and it works.

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Reply By: brushmarx - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 09:28

Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 09:28
Wato35
If you can position your trailer in soft dirt or sand without the vehicle connected, why not just reverse whatever you are doing to get it back out?
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Follow Up By: wato35 - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:26

Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:26
Our favourite camping spot does not have level ground, so its up hill when its time to go! There is a creek on the other side.
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