Another Gas Conv. Question
Submitted: Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:24
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Opinionated
I have a '98 100s Landcruiser 4.5l which i am going to have gas installed.
The more installers i talk to the more confusing it becomes.
Some state you must use sequential injection as once tuned it doesn't require any further fiddling and it wont have backfiring problems and it is more fuel effecient.
They say a venturi system requires re-tuning in temp./atmospheric changes and backfiring is a problem.
Pro-Impco installers say there is little or no advantage in sequential injection systems for the extra $1000- $1500.
I was set on having the twin 'scuba' tanks installed to avoid relocating the spare and to maintain a >1000klms range, untill an installer warned of potential leaking problems and faulty fuel sender issues with these tanks/installations.
Can anyone confirm/deny any of these issues to help me make up my mind and committ to a system - earliest anyone can book me in is october! Appreciate any feedback.
Simon
Reply By: TD100 - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:45
Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:45
i had an impco system in my 4500 80 series and it never backfired,power lose was barely noticeable,and that was 14 years ago.as for the injected lpg i dont think you need it unless you have the money to waste. technology would have come along way since
mine so a closed loop system would be fine. cheers Paul
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Reply By: donk - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:50
Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 21:50
If you go off road you might want to check how much ground clearance you will lose with the twin tanks fitted along the chassis rails
I worked for a short while at a dealership who also did gas conversions & the kit suppliers (LPG warehouse) from memory recomended the rear
tank over the twin side tanks for 100 series that were used off road
Regards Don
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Reply By: bloosted - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 22:21
Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 22:21
i have the same year cruiser and put a sprint gas system on it and never had a backfire,looses little power and seems to use the same amount of gas as petrol........very happy so i wouldn't bother with the injected gas
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Follow Up By: Opinionated - Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 23:00
Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 at 23:00
Thanks for your advice guys.
Bloosted - What
tank option did you go for?
Thx again
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Follow Up By: bloosted - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 09:05
Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 09:05
I went for the
tank at the rear for no other reason than it was cheaper,but i tow a 25 ft van with so would like to put the scuba tanks on as
well as the rear
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Reply By: zacc - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:55
Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:55
i have sequential on my pajero , it has more power on gas . the reason why a lot of installers dont want to put sequential on is it is time consuming , thus the extra cost . the old way is easier . soon the old way will be out dated . with sequetial it is set and forget , it will start on petrol and then switch to gas without you touching a thing and when it runs out it will automaticaly go back to petro. it might be a bit extra at first but in the long run it is better . if you have one decent backfire you will be up for about $1000.00 to replace the air box and air flow meter. also with the older unit the smaller your motor is the more power you loose . i did have the older system on my pajero never had a back fire bu di loose power. have to loose power on petrol aswell. when the older system is put on the ventury size is reduced to allow for suction affect to pull the gas through, lees air flow less power . hope this helps you and not confuse you.
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 13:02
Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 13:02
Simon,
I've got sequential on a 4.0L V6 Courier. It is very good.
However, it still uses 10% more than petrol and is a little down on power as measured by a stopwatch.
I went with this system as it was all put into my leasing cost so I decided to go with the latest. If I was putting my hand into my pocket and making an outright purchase, would I pay the extra $1500 to $2000? No.
Jim.
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Reply By: Cruzin&Campin - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 13:21
Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 13:21
I have a 80 series using a normal gas conversion. It was on it since I bought it 5 years ago.No problems. The boys at LPG1 did tell me that the 100 series can back fire more than a 80 series due to the higher ignition system voltage. I would suggest speaking to them about the difference.
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Reply By: bass_straitener - Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 14:41
Friday, Jun 27, 2008 at 14:41
Hi Simon,
I have a 2001 100s cruiser on a Landi Renzo injected gas system. It had just been released when I put it on and I have been extremely happy with so far, 15 months.
The installation was done by LPGAS1 and cost $4500 before the grant was deducted.
I have the scuba tanks to maintain both petrol tanks. The tanks hang out about 2 inches lower and have protection plates fitted.
I watch my fuel closely and on the last fill I put in 67 litres for the 320kms I travelled around town. Pretty happy with that. On installation the system was dynoed and had more power and torque on gas. On freeway and on trips to
Sydney I managed almost 450kms per fill driving at 110km/h.
There is no discernible difference between travelling on gas or petrol.
If in
Melbourne you are welcome to have a look at the system. Its very neat and has all the switching as mentioned previously from gas to petrol etc.
Am very happy with the system.
Cheers,
Bruce
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Follow Up By: Opinionated - Monday, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:43
Monday, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:43
Thanks Guys for your help and advice, hope i can return the favour one day.
Simon
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