Bury your "waste" people

Matt,

Only a couple of months ago some one posted that they pulled up at servo(I think it was) after a long trip and there was a turd in the car park. Whats the world coming to?
Some people are worse than animals.

Hi Matt, I'm with you.
I cannot understand why people do it.
I think it is just ignorance, I would imagine the people that dont do the right thing are occasional travellers who havent given the idea of what they are doing a second thought.
Having said that I was amazed at the lack of rest stops and/or toilets on some of the long stretchs off country roads.
The sections from Thargomindah, Cunamulla and Bourke are some that come to mind readily as I have just travelled these roads.

Then again some people dont give a sh7t. (Pun intended, LOL)
William

Okay Matt, I won't do it next time ;-)

But having just done Adelaide-Fraser Is-Rocky-Adelaide I know exactly what you mean... toilet paper floating around all over the roadside stops, beach, camp-sites, etc as well as what you commented on.

"I'm sure most on this forum do the right thing"
I wouldn't be so sure Matt, I don't see the cross section of readers on here would be much different to the rest of the general travelling public. I've seen plenty of well set up travellers wander off behind the bushs without a shovel so I'm under no illusion that it's only the casual uneducated traveller.
You are right. Bury it as a minimum as I can see popular areas will have a porta loo requirement the way we're going.
Cheers Craig.....

Matt , I own a block of dirt with river frontage at Turondale that is very popular with campers . Without doubt after a weekend in warmer weather , or especially a long weekend the river banks are festooned with paper ,crap and rubbish and it seems to be getting worse rather than better . The people that leave this disgusting messes would be to lazy to use a shovel to dig a hole and bury their excrement , if they burnt the paper it would be a step in the right direction but they would probably be so irresponsible they would set the bush alight . I can see that not to far into the future I will have to fence off the river access just to try and keep the area decent . Have travelled around Australia and as you say these filthy mongrels are every where in big numbers , such a shame .

"BURY IT"....DEEEEEEEP!
so fox's and dogs wont dig it up

Have to agree you with you, Matt. It's disgusting and seems to be more and more prevalent. Possibly many people don't have a shovel but that's no excuse for not going to a more remote spot at the parking bay. Doesn't take much to burn the toilet paper either but as someone else pointed out, they'd probably burn down the bush.

People also seem to regard the bush as a giant dumping ground; the volume of general rubbish on the roadside is often staggering. I also found that I met nicer people on more remote tracks. My rant is that I often met very selfish and inconsiderate people at roadside stops on bitumen roads. They often hogged the roadside shelters yet were totally self-contained with mobile homes and caravans with the lot. Can't help but be pi$$ed off when I have to cook in the rain and the caravaners have surrounded the shelters but retired inside to cook out of the rain and the wind. I'll stick to the dirt and more remote tracks in future.

Peter

Having recently moved to a place very busy with Grey Nomads, caravaners, 4WD owners with camper trailers passing through you notice a few things.

There are three campsites in town yet people still camp at the side of the road. There is human excrement underneath the creek bridge, toilet paper is wedged under rocks.

There is a dump in town for caravans to empty their waste. As I write there is a bloke using the hose to wash his caravan and 4WD. He is the fourth this morning. The road is now deep in mud.

I can understand people getting a free nights camping out in the sticks but surely not in a town with caravan parks?
If you can't afford to travel then don't?

No one seems to care anymore. Some, not all don't even have the manners to return your G'day.
You start to think badly and wonder why the $%&@ they don't stay at home.

By the way if you get up in the morning, open up your curtains and see a white Defender camped on your lawn, it's milk, no sugar thanks LOL

cheers Eric

Hi All

Not only do you see the Rubbish when you travel, like every body has
said, just have a look around some of the Shopping Centre Car Parks
and you notice Soiled Babies Nappies thrown under the Cars or just
lying around, people are that bloody lazy, or you see Food and Drink
Containers thrown out of Vehicles or Picnic Areas with over flowing
Rubbish Bins with Crap lying on the ground, it would be to much
trouble to take it home and dump it,
Its sad to think that some of our fellow Humans are worse than
Animals.

Cheers
Daza

What we need is a few Singapore chewing Gum Police!

Just spent 2 weeks in the Grt Vic Desert and it was a pleasure to camp in virgin territory. Soon as we hit so called civilisation ie Grt Central Rd and surrounding roads eg David Carnegie we started to see the evidence of bush streamers etc. Why the hell people can't bury and burn their paper is beyond me. If the ground is so hard burn and cover your crap with a heavy layer of rocks.

Mm often wondered what the significance of some of the cairns I've seen over the years.

Matt, the reasons are easy to understand. Laziness, stupidy, ignorance, lack of consideration for others, wah wah wah. The list goes on but the reality is ITS NOT THAT HARD TO DO THE RIGHT THING. & I hate it when people say its a sign of the times. Crap (pun intended), we have let it get that way. If my family did that sort of thing I'd belt the sh*t out of them (2 puns in 1 post, wow).

Problem is definitely getting worse. Not just confined to rest stops - remember camping at the Dulhunty crossing on OTL track few years back - crap and toilet paper strewn everywhere. People are getting lazier it seems. One issue that really annoys me, as a bushwalker, is the tissue "dabs" found along tracks everwhere. If my fellow females absolutely must use a "blotter", and carry tissues for this purpose, surely they could also carry a baggie and take the tissue with them!! You would think that women who go to places like the Bungles and Mitchell Plateau would be more environmentally and aesthetically sensitive, but no!

All,
It appears that I'm not alone!

Crackles, you maybe right about some EO readers being no different, but I'm trying to be optimistic :-).

In my line of employment, I see many things that would make most of this forum blush - especially when we are deployed or out bush. I'm sure a few of the ex-defence types on this forum would agree. Even when out bush, we are constantly reminded of HYGEINE - obviously a concept lost on many!

That said, I cant see ANY excuse for what I have recently seen at roadside stops in the past week. My question to the guilty out there is: DO YOU DO THE SAME THING AT HOME? (Yes, I'm yelling!). If the answer is no, then why do it when you are travelling?

Granted, Oz is a big place, but having travelled around it, I have yet to see toilets more than 2 - 3 hours apart - except in very remote areas. If you cannot time your "number 2's" to align with these stops, then maybe you need to see your doctor!

AND WHILE I'M AT IT - Curious reminded me of 2 others things that annoy me:

1. Nomads who hog both roadside stops AND camp kitchens in caravan parks, DESPITE having full kitchens in their own vans!!!
Hint: leave these facilities to travellers who need them - use your own facilities. Harsh? Probably. Justified? - A resounding Yes.

2. Nomads who wander into the toilet blocks in the morning to empty their empty bleep buckets (to hell with offending readers about now) into sinks and toilets. Have you people ever thought about using the sullage points designed for your ilk??

In closing, I apologise to all the Nomads out there who do the right thing - and my wife and I met some great characters (who we still email all these years later) when we did the loop in 2002.
For the record, we were 20 & 30 something at the time when we did the trip - before someone says that the "kettle is calling the pot black"

I also apologise for getting so annoyed about this, but the country doesn't belong to a select few - the rest of us wouldn't mind enjoying it too.

Spleen Vented!

Matt