Travelling manners

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 17:18
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After having my 2 bobs worth regarding some peoples lack of skill with a shovel leaving their stinking crap around camp sites and water courses, travelling manners are becoming another sad fatality. The friendly wave to a fellow traveller is a great Australian courtesy and good manners in remote areas. Forget about towns and cities.

The old man taught me to always wave to a fellow traveller because he may be the only one around to pull you out of a bog and vice versa.

eg The mate and I and our families were enjoying the solitude on the west coast of Fraser when along came a pair of Rangies. I lifted my arm and waved. So did the kids. They ignored us. About 2 or so hours later a bloke, totally exhausted, wandered into our camp yelling he was stuck in Wathumba Creek. Poor bugger was almost hysterical. The mate gave him the mail;

"Mate you drove past us with your nose in the air and totally ignored us! Now you want us to help YOU!!??

He offered money at which time I had to come into it before the hysterical fellow had bigger problems. We put him out of his misery and headed up. The tide on its way in. What confronted us was two Rangies, one 15 metres away from the creek up to the diffs and the other down to the running boards in the creek. Both connected by a strap. It took two linked FJ40's with low cam 350 Chevs and lockers (we actually taught some shovelling skills!) to ease each vehicles out. The hysterical Rangie being the hardest as the Island wanted it bad. We left not accepting a beer because of the tide and all done. Midges too crook anyway.

Our kids, mates and grandkids cope this yarn as a practical lesson in travelling manners. I wonder if the old Rangie mates reading this? Its been 25 years mate and I'm still waiting for the lottery ticket.

So if you see an old Troopie with a PTO on the front and an old bugger waves, wave back, you never know.

Sorry about the length of this, but the emerging bad travelling manners p##s me off.

Cheers

Seakarvan
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Reply By: Rock Ape - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 17:54

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 17:54
Love your story
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Reply By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 17:58

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 17:58
The wave is the suppose to be the common thing amongst australians. i did it when i was a kid and i will teach it to my kid/kids. So it's not so a dying thing, my wife and i are around 33 years old.

Good story, it puts things into perspective.
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Follow Up By: Seakarvan - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:04

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:04
Good on you Chris, and good parenting. Should be more of you.

Cheers

Seakarvan
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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:19

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:19
Haven't had kids yet!! But they will learn the same things i did and heaven help them if they step out of line too far!!!!

With the kids theingy we are looking into it!!!!

Cheers

Seakarvan
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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:20

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:20
oops talk about a typo

sorry
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 14:57

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 14:57
LOL you might have to do a bit more than "look" hahahahahaha

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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 08:37

Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 08:37
Think he might be, Gramps. That's why his making those typos!!! lol.

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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:01

Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:01
I enjoy the practice and the looking.

Looking at a beautiful woman, practing at making children!!!
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Reply By: GREENDOG ! - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:06

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:06
It's NON Australian not to wave.cheer's GREENDOG
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:51

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:51
Totally agree ! The guy you give the finger to and pass at a zillion miles an hour, could be the one trying to stem your bleeding just down the track !
We are born among strangers.
We spend our lives among strangers.
Many of us will die among strangers.
Be nice to strangers !
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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:54

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 18:54
They probably ignored you coz you in a Troopie weren't considered in the same demograph as them in their Rangies!
Years ago, one used to be able to get those waving hands which stuck to the inside of the windscreen and continuously waved at the passing traffic. Don't think they conveyed the same conviction as a real hand, somehow! Haven't seem them for yonks. Probably a good reason...
cheers,
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:53

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:53
Yep agree with you there. When I was peddling Tonka toys up and down the coast, I would get the same thing, if you weren't driving a Westernstar or kenny you were crap, so I would get on the radio and ask them the question.
Driving a kenny/Star must be like getting a h**d job of your brother. It feels good till your mum sees you.

Trouble is I am putting some good people in the same basket, there are people who drive expensive makes of vehicles that are as decent if not more decent than all of us. So we must carefu;l not to lump them into the one area.

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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:18

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:18
I dont wave as such but always lift a finger or two off the wheel to acknowledge a fellow traveller.

Having said that, you have to deal with quick glances, dirty or reflections on windscreens and dark interiors which may cause you not to see a responding acknowledgement.

This happens very often to me where I say to the missus "that bloody snob didnt even bother to wave back" and with her eagle eyes, she says "yes he did you blind buggar".

Mind you, its nothing I would lose any sleep over.

Cheers.....Lionel.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:19

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:19
I usually "salute" with a finger or two and don't give a continental whether the other driver responds or not.

They may not have seen my "salute" or responded too late for me to notice.

Whatever, this Australian custom is an individual thing and doesn't change my attitude to help anyone if necessary in the slightest, regardless of whether they responded or not.

I think you are a little bit "hung up" about it mate.
Bill


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Follow Up By: Member - eerfree(QLD) - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:41

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:41
Lionel and Sandman
I agree, I wave to all and sundry but sometimes if we are in the middle of a blue (I am Married) or the road needs a bit more concentration I will miss out, but Honest if I did not wave to you I did not mean to be ignorant.
Cheers

Bob
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:57

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 19:57
Its interesting, these days we spend most of our travel time on the bitumen with a white box on wheels tailgating us, and that has given a different perspective. We generally had pretty good responses to waves off road in years gone by, but on road, it varies:

1. Near the cities - forget it
2. Most highways - other caravanners 99%, overseas tourists most (and enthusiastic about it), many truckies once you are a couple of hundred kays out of towns, locals most, motor-homers few, 4WDers with gear all over and in, (hurrying to get to a dirt road and making me jealous) many.
3. On the byways & back roads - just about everyone except motor homers.
4. On the Stuart highway - all wave except truckies. They all seem to have their arms amputated or something. In fact I wonder if they realise that those old f**ts in caravans actually paid the high taxes 25 years ago for their lovely sealed roads.

Gives us something to talk about, and if I've been in a dream and forgotten to lift the fingers as I passed you, my apologies. Be sure the boss reminded me that you waved!!

Love being out - even if the odd river does not wave.
Max
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Reply By: Pomgonewalkabout - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 22:42

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 22:42
If you want a wave, buy a Defender.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Tippa - Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 23:30

Thursday, Jul 24, 2008 at 23:30
Ha ha you are right about that. Personally, I wave to lots of broken down pommy cars as i pass them :)
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Follow Up By: Pomgonewalkabout - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:10

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:10
I know the war was a long time ago but don't you feel a tinge of regret or remorse driving Japanese?
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Follow Up By: Tippa - Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 at 20:32

Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 at 20:32
Absolutely not champ. I buy the best i can afford, and in most cases with anything mechanical, it's from Japan. I think it's up to the other manufacturers to lift their game and match the quality coming out of japan and then i'll buy it.... especially from Britain where industry wasnt flattened by a nuclear bomb and still can't match the japs for industry precision, quality control and ultimately build quality and reliability. Did i say reliability and Britain in the same sentence?! Ha ha, anyway thats my humble opinion champ. As long as we are all out there enjoying the Australian countryside its all good!
(ps last year i drove to all 4 corners of England and was gobsmacked with its beauty and history. Made me also understand why one of their legendary cars was an Austin 7! (and my father in-law owns one too ha ha).
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Reply By: Nic I (NSW) - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:18

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:18
When I used to ride bikes Harley riders would wave at no-one except other Harley riders, except when the waving location was 50km or more from a town.

Then they'd wave at every other rider, even if you were on a contemptible 'riceburner' (Japanese), 'teaburner' (Pommie) or 'wogburner' (European) bike, because invariably they'd break down, you wouldn't, and they'd need your help. They were usually very mechanically challenged as well.
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Reply By: Nic I (NSW) - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:18

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:18
When I used to ride bikes Harley riders would wave at no-one except other Harley riders, except when the waving location was 50km or more from a town.

Then they'd wave at every other rider, even if you were on a contemptible 'riceburner' (Japanese), 'teaburner' (Pommie) or 'wogburner' (European) bike, because invariably they'd break down, you wouldn't, and they'd need your help. They were usually very mechanically challenged as well.
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Reply By: Member - Howard T (QLD) - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 14:47

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 14:47
Totally agree with the waving. Coming back from just this side of Alpha a couple weeks back where we have put the wavers into categories of %.
Queensland Number Plates 99%
Cockroach Number plates 70%
Blue and white Number Plates 40%
So come on you travellers from below the borders of the Sunshine State, Lift those hands. Doesnt hurt and makes you feel good.
Cheers
Howard.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 15:01

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 15:01
"Queensland Number Plates 99%"

That's because you're all related by blood LOL

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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 18:35

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 18:35
Since we bought the new van we seem to get a lot bigger waves when towing it. 4WD to 4WD seems to be a couple of fingers off the wheel. Van to Van gets a big hand wave.

Go figure.

We will be off down the Great Ocean Road over the weekend, then 4 days in the grampians so if you see the heritage listed Paj lift a hand!

Cheers

Pete
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Reply By: neil&brenda - Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 21:00

Friday, Jul 25, 2008 at 21:00
Still regard ourselves as young, even though we have been on the road as children and adults for 40 odd+ years. Times have changed and they haven't? The finger, usually for locals in the vicinity. The wave, usually on the open road. The Flash(lights, not bum) for outback. These type of signals haven't changed. It is our perceptions. The aussie attitude is concrete, and cannot be erroded by time. If a mate is in trouble, you help, no questions asked. If you are offered a beer, you don't ask any questions!!
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Reply By: rapid80 - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 00:34

Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 00:34
Happy part: When I was driving tour buses I had a bus cricket game I played with the foreigner next to me based on how many fingers we could get when waving at passing cars.Of course in the driver's seat I was at an advatage though probably,maybe, forgot to mention it to them despite their overenthusiastic waving attempts in order to win a beer from me.Still they learnt a cultural lesson at the same time as giving me something to drink after a long days drive.
Sad part: A coworker who has driven through at least 90 countries conducting tours told me a story after his Kimberly trip in his old restored Landrover.Everybody waved when driving but when he had an electrical fire and was stuck on the side of the road for about 8 hours repairing it,including hours lying under vehicle with bonnet up,nobody stopped to see if he was OK.
I also picked up a guy near Coolgardie in WA who was holding a set of jumper leads and jump started his car,he said he had been standing there for 6 hours and nobody stopped.
I know there is a minority of bad people who take advantage of these situations but the majority are genuine and maybe sometimes more than waving is required. Of course you have to judge it as you see and feel it at the time but both of these people were clean,prepared,well presented and descent honest folk who couldn't get help when needed.Sorry if it sounds somber but personally I stop and take my chances.Happy travelling in a beautiful country and may all get a chance to see it.
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Reply By: EscapeArtists - Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 09:54

Saturday, Jul 26, 2008 at 09:54
I see your point! although, maybe the dood didnt see your wave?
just a thought :)

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