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Three 4x4 wish to go from Birdsville to Tibooburra via Cameron Corner. We are first timers in this part of Aussie and we are not campers and hence we have to reach perarranged accomodation at relevant towns. Hence we are seeking the easiest route that you would recommend. I have been watching road conditions via the website so am aware of caution required on various traks/roads.
Also, please comment on tyre pressure. This website recommends lower rather than higher pressures on corrugated roads. What do you recommend.

Stuart L Qld
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:09

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:09
Stuart

Which model vehicle and which brand of tyres?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:48

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:48
Thanks Willem,
First time on forum. Hope I am on the right track.

I have an NM Pajero with new Pirelli A/T Scorpions and wont be travelling too heavy.

Rgds

Stuart
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 19:13

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 19:13
Stuart

Tyre pressures anywhere between 26 and 30psi. Make your own judgement as you go along. I take it that you will be going Birdsville, Walkers Crossing, Innamincka. After that the Bore Track is OK with a few smallish dunes to negotiate and a pretty easy run down to Tibooburra and eventually White Cliffs.

Enjoy



Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:06

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:06
Thanks Willem,
All info is good to receive.
Good to hear that the Bore track seems to be a good option.
Thanks again
Stuart
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Reply By: Cape York Connections - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:44

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:44
I haven't been that for a while but remember the roads being very good.
It seems a long journey for a days drive.

all the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:18

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:18
Thanks Eric,
I have noted below that we are staying over at Innamincka
Cheers
Stuart
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:50

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:50
Birdsville to Tibooburra???

One way via accommodation would be Birdsville to Windorah.
Excellent motel units at the Windorah pub.
Windorah down to Tibbooburra via Camerons Corner (One day)
or go down to Innaminka (pub for accommodation) and then down to Merty merty and across to Cameron corner.

Depends a lot on vehicle, what type of road you want or don't want to travel.

Great area, you'll enjoy the experience.

Family hotel in Tibbooburra has great meals and an icon of the outback
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:22

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:22
Thanks Allan,
My general reply 5 of 5 shows we are overnighting at Innamincka.
We intend to eat at the Family hotel but thanks for the heads up.
Cheers
Stuart
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:52

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 14:52
Stuart,

There are two recognised routes from Birdsville to Tib via Cameron's Corner.

There is the Cordillo Downs Rd and there is Walkers Crossing. On either route most people would consider Birdsville to Innamincka a full day.Tibooburra would be another 4 to 5 hours. (I will accept correction on this from those who have timed it.)

What I am trying to say is Birdsville to Tibooburra is one really big days drive. You could probably do it if you really like watching road slip under the bonnet, but you won't see much else and you will probably get back home thinking it was a waste of time. Consider stopping for a night at least in Innamincka two would be better. There is accommodation available there.

As for tyre pressures I usually drop my road pressures by 25% when I get on the dirt When it gets rough I go another 25% and on soft sand I would go 25% lower still.

For me that works out at:
40psi on road
30psi on good dirt
24psi on bad dirt
18psi in the sand

That's not strict I often adjust the pressures from these depending on how things feel. It does give you a starting point and as Willem indicates it will depend on your vehicle and tyres.

I have a GU with 265/75 Cooper ST/C's

Take your time out there Stu, leave some time for sitting and taking in the feel of the outback. Wish I was there right now.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:27

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 16:27
Thanks Duncs for your detailed reply.

Would you recommend the Bore Track to go from Innamincka to Cameron Corner?

Cheers

Stuart
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:04

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:04
Stuart
The bore track is the one with the most to see. You get a small bit dune driving and som great areas of wild flowers sohould still be out.
Vince
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:11

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:11
Vince ,
Thanks for the reply regarding the Bore Track.
Several replies recommend this option.

Thanks again

Stuart
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:17

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:17
When I was living in Broken Hill we used to go from the Hill to Innamincka in one day. Its about 650km so a biggish day in that part of the world.

I have only ever been via the Bore Track. Kept thinking we should have a look at the Strez but the Bore Track is so much quicker and it is pretty.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:29

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:29
Duncs
Had a call from friends last night who have just done the Bore Track and Walkers Crossing and both were in good condition. Our route has been set so thanks for your help.

Stuart
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Reply By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:18

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 15:18
Thanks for your replies. Info will be of great assistance. To answer all questions.
NM Pajero with new Pirelli Scorpions.Bob Jane recommends 38psi on the black stuff. Supposed to be second to Coopers in the rough road stakes. I had 22psi in the sand at Fraser Is last week and they went well. Also with a Prado and Merc 4x4. The Merc also has Scorpions and the Prado is to buy new tyres. Any recommendations? I hope this does not start another tyre debate.

I failed to say that we are staying o.night at Innamincka, so the trip will be Birdsville to Innamincka, one night , and then thru to Cameron Corner to Tibooburra (overnight) and then on to White Cliffs.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:24

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:24
Stuart,

If you are going to White Cliffs from Tib you should take your time and call in at Reola Station to see "The Big Shed". It is featured in the RM Williams magazine, check their website for details.

Grahame Brown of Reola is an impressive man, little known in the big smoke but well respected in the bush. He had the vision to build this amazing shed when wool was at it's lowest. Spent a lot of money and got it all back. The shed is worth a look and if you call and pre arrange your visit they will show you around and tell you the story.

You will see lots of country out there, take the opportunity to see some of the people too. It's a couple of hours well invested.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:32

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:32
Stuart,

I forgot to mention, when you call into the Cameron Corner Store, you have got to ask what the sticker on the till stands for and try to stick a $5 note to the ceiling. Get the kids to ask the questions.

Did that a couple of years ago and spent over an hour laughing hard. Cost me $6 and we made camp in the dark but it was well worth it.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:38

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:38
Duncs

Thanks for the above tips. We will make time to visit Reola and the store.

Stuart
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:05

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:05
I drove from Wanaaring to Innamincka via Tib and Cameron Cnr in one hit and that was a very long day. Luckily the Motel rooms at Innamincka had opened that week because i was too buggered to even consider sticking up a campertrailer.

I didn't understand about camping wherever you liked and kept looking for campsites at places like Merty Merty and ended up just continuing on to Innamincka.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:36

Wednesday, Aug 06, 2008 at 23:36
Hi Waynepd,

My first time on the forum but happy to receive good info from so many members.

Happy travels.

Cheers

Stuart
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:28

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:28
Hey Wayne,

The idea of camping anywhere is really simple. I usually turn left off the road, drive about 200m and camp behind a clump of bush or trees or something. :-))) Some of the best nights I have ever had.

I figure you have worked that out by now though.

If you haven't maybe we should organise a trip so I can show you. GGggggeeeeeee I neeeeeeeeed to get out in the bush.

Duncs
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Reply By: Dave B (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 00:04

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 00:04
We went to Innamincka a few weeks ago through the Bore Track, and the 50 odd Kilometres at the Innamincka end had a few washouts in the creeks, but generally a good track.
We returned through Tibooburra via the Old Strezlecki track and Merty to Camerons Corner and that was also in good condition.

Have a chat to travellers when you get to Innamincka to see what the current road conditins are like. They can change quickly with a bit of rain.

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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:11

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:11
Just a note here Stuart about tyre pressures, when you drive on lower tyre pressures, make sure you reduce your speed as well! Drive to the conditions is an important part of outback driving to make sure you get to where you're going in one piece! And as someone above has said, don't be in too much of a rush to "make-a-mile", there's a lot to see out there!!


Cheers

Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:35

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 10:35
Brian

Thanks for the tip on pressure and speed.

Stuart
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Reply By: deserter - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:13

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:13
When you say you are 'not campers'. What happens if you get a flat tyre or two during the day and are still well short of your destination at nightfall?? Do you drive on ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 16:56

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 16:56
Good point. I should have said that we chose not to camp on this trip but we have water, provisions and cover to camp if we have to if problems occur.

Thanks for the comment

Stuart
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 20:43

Thursday, Aug 07, 2008 at 20:43
Stuart, make sure you have plenty of warm things - I note you have cover as we have been having very cold winds. The days are sunny and clear but a.m.s are about 5 degrees.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart L (QLD) - Friday, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:59

Friday, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:59
Thanks Ruth,
We intend to take our thermals and suitable coats, plus high grade sleeping bags, gloves etc. We were in Charleville about this time last year on the way to the Cape when that cold front moved thru. The temp was about 10 at noon but wind chill was a different story again.

Have just had a week in Hobart with 3 to 12 range and know one has to take appropriate gear.

Thanks again

Stuart
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