trip to Alice

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:00
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hi everyone,
Im after some feedback on traveling to Alice springs and Uluru from Brisbane.
I have talked to a few friends that have made the trip and have been told many different things. Some have said to drive west from brissy, while others have suggested going via NSW and SA.
We were thinking of doing this trip in about 2, maybe 3 weeks. Will that be enough? Do we need any permits? Is it an easy drive?
Would be great to hear from some of you that have been out this way. This will be our first big trip so any info would be great.

Thanks
Demc and Hayley
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Reply By: Member - Kevin R (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:37

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:37
Are you travelling in 4WD?
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Follow Up By: Member - Hayley & Demc (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:40

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:40
Yeh we are :)
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Reply By: Member - Jon W (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:44

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:44
Hi Folks,
I would suggest that the most direct route is Bne-Morven-Barcaldine-Winton-Boulia-Alice via Donaghue and Plenty Hwy. Two weeks would be very rushed. You would need to allow 4 days for Bne-Alice and a day to Yalara from Alice adding up to 10 days of travel alone.
As far as I can recall, the only permit required is for Uluru and the Olgas and this is included in the park entrance ticket. If you go to Kings Canyon (highly recommended) via the Mereenie Loop Road, you will need to purchase a permit from any one of a number of outlets.
There is much to see around Alice and I can recommend the Macdonnell Range BIG 4 caravan park but book ahead.
www.clc.org.au/permits/ has info re permits.
The Hema Red Centre map is useful and the NT holiday centre has free booklets.
They can be contacted on 1800606150 or www.travelnt.com.

Watch out for foreign tourists in hire campervans and 4WDs on any dirt roads around Alice - they only know one speed and think that they are bullet proof.

Enjoy your trip.

Jon W
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:14

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:14
I would fully endorse what John has said.

the only thing I would add is that if you are camping don't stay at Yulara. Wehn we were there the campground was dirty, and noisy and management did not seem to care about anyone who was not driving a coach full of foreign tourists.

Duncs
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Reply By: rredbeak - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:47

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:47
we drove from brisbane to alice springs [we're still here lol] ,went to mt isa then across and down,its a great drive and all good roads.
weve also been brisbane to alice via adelaide ,a LOT more scenic and much the same difference in distance. Only permits required is Ayres rock. $25 per head but that lasts 2 days.

either way you will enjoy every bit,happy trails.PS,its a shame you cant get here for THIS weekend,its the Henley on Todd regatta..the boat races in the dry river bed...

Happy Trails.. Rod
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Follow Up By: rredbeak - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:04

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:04
just reading the post above mine,i didnt realise you could recomend places.i recomend you stay at HEAVI TREE Gap park,its a van park,motel,supermarket on site,petrol station on site,a tavern on site,they do bus tours for those not driving,they do aboriginie night dance shows at $105 pp dinner/show [JUST ASK for the show its only $26 pp] have dinner at maccas etc.

theyve got wild rock wallaby feeding sessions for everyone not just kids at 4pm to 6 pm daily,cost $1...


let yourself go and spend 3 weeks not 2,you'll love it and now is the right time of year its just getting warm now NOT hot...need more?? email me at ozzy_battler@hotmail.com rod
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:58

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:58
You'd definitely need 3 weeks, preferably 4.It's 4 days to Alice, then 400ks to Uluru. Then you have another 4-5 days to get back to Brizzy.

We did the same trip in 2003. Went via Longreach, Boulia and the Plenty Highway. Stayed in Alice for a few days then on to Uluru. Back to Kulgera, day trip to Lamberts centre, down to Coober Pedy, across to William Creek and Lake Eyre for the night, then Maree, up the Birdsville track and then to Brizzy. Took us 3 .5 weeks and that was pushing it. Great trip though. Any less time and it wouldn't have been worth doing.
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Reply By: Member - Hayley & Demc (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:06

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:06
Thanks everyone.
I didnt realise how difficult it would be planning this trip. By the sounds of it we should look at taking 3 weeks rather than 2, Just hard as I dont want to have the kids out of school for too long. We were hoping to go in the sept/oct school holidays, but not sure we will be organised enough. Do you know any where that hires out Oz tents???
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Follow Up By: Member - Jon W (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:36

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:36
Hi Folks,
Have you done the Darling River, Broken Hill, Menindee and Mungo? If you haven't, it is easily done in two weeks and well worthwhile if you are limited to two weeks.
For what its worth.
Jon W
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Follow Up By: rredbeak - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 14:38

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 14:38
the hardest thing to do when planning a trip is to actually get in the car and leave...once youve broken the ties with home its easy and you can concentrate on daily decisions..some ppl love planning but fear going,that was me.

where ever you go,enjoy yourself,and safe travells..rod
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 15:43

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 15:43
The kids will benefit more from the extra week on the road than a week at school. You may find it worthwhile to speak to their teachers NOW, not at term's end when things get hectic. As an ex teacher (albeit a weird one), I'm in no doubt.

Alfonse.
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:50

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:50
Two weeks is plenty to see the basics. Of course you could spend months if you had the time.

Here's a tip regarding the fees at Uluru. If you go the back way through Docker River, there is no gate and you can get in free - a saving of $25 per person. Alice to Kintore is about 500km, Kintore to Docker River 350 km, and Docker R to Yulara abouyt 230 km.

So not only will you save heaps, the drive is far more interesting.

Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Jon W (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 14:17

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 14:17
Bob,
Good idea if there are at least 7 people in the 4WD and it gets at least 7 km/L at an average cost of no more than $ 1.75 / L assuming diesel and you can afford the extra day of travel.
Jon W
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony B (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 18:14

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 18:14
Jon. I think you should not use the post to tell people how to escape a fee they should pay to go to Uluru. You can go on line and get a permit for free if you are driving through without going to the rock. Thats what we did. If you go to the rock then pay the required fee. Cheers Tony.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jon W (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 19:49

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 19:49
Tony,
Methinks you have missed the point.
Jon W
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:06

Wednesday, Aug 27, 2008 at 08:06
So driving an extra 680K to save $25.... Glad you're not in charge of MY budget :-P
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Reply By: yakodi - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:54

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 13:54
Spend 3 weeks, the kids won't miss anything at school. But they'll apreciate the freedom of being out and about learning about the country and central Australia. We have just finished up our 4 years on the road with kids, we would never have thought we would end up in a place like Alice. Everything is just easy here.
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Reply By: Member - Kevin R (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 15:10

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 15:10
We just came back from 3 week trip from Cairns to the centre return - not really enough time. The Plenty Hwy is pretty ordinary at the moment particularly around Jervois Station and Harts. It is very badly corugated and cut up. Most people are driving on the verges to find a smoother line. Mereenie Loop was the worst road on our 7000 k trip.

Cheers

Kevin
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 21:50

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 21:50
Mereenie was being graded last week and was fantastic. Like driving on glass.
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Reply By: Member - Hayley & Demc (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:07

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:07
Might be an odd question, but how much does an average 3 week trip away cost? Can it be done on the cheap??
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Follow Up By: Member - Jon W (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:52

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:52
Hi folks again,
How long is a piece of string? Can it be done on the cheap? Sure can.
1. If you intend using caravan parks, join BIG 4 and or Top Tourist. You will recoup the membership costs easily over two weeks.
2. Take as much non-perishable food with you from home as you possibly can.
3. Take as many prepared meals with you as possible.
4. Take a jaffle iron or sandwich maker to use up leftovers.
5. Cook in camp kitchens where possible.
6. Avoid takeaways like the plague.
7. Have all lunch ingredients thought out and easily accessible incl cold drinks.
8. Purchase drinks, incl alcohol, in bulk from home if room is avail.
9. If needing such accom, avoid motels and use selfcontained cabins at caravan parks.
10. Use your mobile sparingly and send texts as much as possible rather than voice calls.
I'll get off the soapbox now. Enjoy your trip.
Jon W
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin R (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:55

Tuesday, Aug 26, 2008 at 16:55
Fuel for our 7000k return trip cost $2075. I have an 08 D4D Prado towing a Trackabout camper. Av fuel consumption towing was 14.9 lt /100 klm which included 4wd tracks and 120 kph on the Stuart Hwy. Cheapest was $1.91 at Winton & Alice,most expensive was $2.38 at Jervois Station on the Plenty Hwy.
Nat Parks camping fees are cheap @ $7 a night in remote areas (Chambers Pillar) or about $12 at more up market (toilets and showers) sites like Rainbow Valley.
Uluru is a monopoly and is much more expensive to camp or to stay in hotel or self contained.

Cheers

Kevin
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