Smart campers 2008

Mount Browne Goldfields near Milparinka NSW

Met a couple of old blokes there from your town. Barry and Ronnie, driving a Coaster Bus :-)


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Only by the dopes who need to take a mountain of booze with them wherever they go.

Doug, at least members have the option to suppress the ads........

John
Yes I know....but not the one that covers the photo's, I do notice it is not there now

some times it (the ad) happens sometimes it doesnt..its not consisitent

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JIm

This was a particularly large fire place that I cleaned up judging from the amount of ash around. The aluminium cans did not burn completely.

If one looks at the mess left behind in the early 1900's by the miners who mined for gold one wonders why people fail to learn the lessons of the past


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Try raking thorough the ash the next day if you think aluminium cans will "totally disappear".
I can see no reason to throw cans into the fire in the first place, they crush to a about a 10th of their size, if you can carry them in full, you can carry them out empty.
Most fire pits in the high country resmble rubbish tips, personally, I am sick & tired of carrying out other peoples rubbish, including half burnt cans & stubbies.

Ive seen people have this discussion so to prove a point one chucked the cans into the fire and was happy to show they burnt while the other got the bits out of the coals the next day to prove they didnt

For aluminium to "disappear" it has to reach it's boiling point, which is 2467.0 °C, so I doubt if a campfire could ever attain anything like that temperature.

Anyone seen pics of a burnt out 4wd that had alloy wheels? The alloy doesn't 'burn away' but simply melted into a puddle over the ground. The temperatures reached in a car blaze would be much higher than a campfire.
When campers are asked to 'take all rubbish home with you' then people should heed that.

Barnesy

Well all I can tell you fellas is that I have seen aluminium cans put into the red hot middle of a fire, right on the coals and they completely disappear. Nothing to be found in the coals the next day.

It seems that the alloy in the cans is so thin, it does actually burn away. I didn't think it possible either until I had it proven to me.

Jim.

Lionel,

Unfortunately the passage of time does not necessarily imbue one with intelligence or common sense for that matter. It would be a mistake to always attribute this sort of behaviour to the younger generations. I've seen plenty of 'smart campers' in the older generations.

dont forget thats the way it was done years ago. I seem to remember it was perfectly OK to bury your rubish.
The biggest messes you will ever find is the old camps people now consider historic sites like the old woodline camps
- Imagine if companys left a mess in the bush like that today.
believe it or not for all the photos like willems things are alot better than they used to be

Davoe,

Very true, but sometimes we have to modify old habits. The good old days and ways are'nt always so good on reflection.

brushmarx

I understand your sentiment, but DNA testing is very expensive to do, forget the "Big Brother" paranoids, think of the cost to tax payers to police such an idea.

DNA is not the be all and end all that some think it is. Even in a serious crime it must be used carefully.

Would the number of succesesful convictions cover the cost of such testing???? Who knows.

I think everyone would concider thosands of dollars fines a bit draconian for littering.
Cheers Colin.

I understand the cost Colin, but it could be paid by the offenders, not taxpayers. Also, what cost for one cigarette butt causing one bushfire resulting in loss of human life, stock and property.
A fine is too draconian to prevent that? I don't agree.
Qld Government banning school kids from somersaults and handstands could be classed as draconian, but safety should be paramount. As evidenced by blatant recurring offences from using a slap on the wrist approach our soft centred Magistrates and Judges offer criminals from all levels of crime, a bit of a big stick penalty may just work.
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While I applaud your clean up actions, what in the world makes you think these oafs were "Southern Greenies"? Perhaps from the south, but don't sound like any Greenies I have ever met.

Well we had listened to them the night before, over a beer, expound the fact that they had brought the kids up from Sydney (that's south of Queensland) to discover the real bush.
No problem with that as we did it 35 years ago with our kids and now they now take their kids (our grankids) bush all the time.

I guess calling them greenies was wrong, pretend greenies was probably more like it, as a real greenie would have more consideration for wildeness areas.

To see people who profess a love of the bush and camping, leave their campsite or area like a rubbish dump just infuriates me.

Yes, Barnesy, I cleaned out the fireplace and got rid of the rocks as well and placed all the debris in my rubbsh bag and left it in the trailer designed for that purpose behind the shearers quarters on tghe station.

Not many camp down at this spot as all appear to camp close to the toilets and showers. I am totally self sufficient so do not need those facilities and that why I camped away from all the other campers.

I even raked the area....lol


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