Sunday's History Photo

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This week it's Waikerie in SA , and the photo shows a 1947-48 Ford being Serviced at Murray Motors Ford ,
It was way back in 1969 I bought a Cortina GT 1600 from Murray Motors,

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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 06:41

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 06:41
LOOK at that neat workshop......LOOK how clean He is.....everything is in order and has it's place....you could EAT off that floor.......aye lad's, that's the way it USED to be done.

Remember when just your word and /or a hand shake would guarantee a good job.

And yes the GT cortina...remember ALSO the 220 ( two door) and the 440 (four door). And those razor blade tyres.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:07

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:07
Redbakk
And in some places it still is, Prosser Toyota at Gosnells is spotless

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Follow Up By: Cape York Connections - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:43

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:43
They mustn't have had oil or grease in those days either look at hi overalls.

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Follow Up By: Member - Michael O (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:48

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:48
and the hat...
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Reply By: lancie49 - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:39

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:39
What a Great pic. Reminds me so much of my Dads garage in McLeod Vic. in the 60s.
Damn those were fun days. Our workshop wasn't as spacious, clean or tidy as that one though LOL

Lance
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:58

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 07:58
Those apprentices sure were old back then... :-)

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:58

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:58
That reminds me of the days when my Dad owned a Vanguard,
he would take it to a Garage some thing similar to that, the
Mechanic would say to me, Young Fella, you can stay in the Car
while its on the Hoist, but dont move around, I thought it was
Terrific, or in other words COOL,

Thanks Doug.


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 14:07

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 14:07
Mmmmaaaaaatte....WHO could forget the Vanguard....A army tank on wheels...they were awesome and bullet proof....I loved my uncle Dougs...we did some miles in that beast AND got into some situations AND always got out....mate
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 14:48

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 14:48
Yep you are right, I was told once, that they put the same motor
in a Tractor, dont recall what Brand it was.
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 15:10

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 15:10
It was a Ferguson Tractor Daza. Same block though even less refined than the Guards' Van, but not much less acceleration!

Dad bought a 1951 Vanguard new and kept it for 10 years, in which he managed to fit the family of six and drag a caravan on summer holidays.

Mum, my oldest sister & I learned to drive in it over the years, and what part of the gear linkage to wriggle when the column mounted shift jammed up.

Great days!
Max

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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 15:27

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 15:27
Hey Max, I'm starting to feel bloody Old, just thinking about them,
ours was Black, and my Dad used to paint White Walls on the Tyres,
they all reckoned he was a bit of a Bodgie.

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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 16:30

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 16:30
White walls - now that was radical! "Popular Mechanics" showed cars with white walls but we did not realise that Aussies could have them too!

Max
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 19:22

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 19:22
A Bodgie !!!

No one under 35 would know what a Bodgie is these days.

Let alone a Widgie !!

I'm glad I ain't too scared to be lazy
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazy Dog (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 20:22

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 20:22
Yep ! The good ol guards van.. My first car was a 1952 green beetle back. It was easy to date this model as it was supposed to be the only one with a lockable chrome petrol cap on the outside - not behind a door.

It was brought out from England by my Grandfather who then sold it to my father who then sold it to me for 60 quid back then. The only problem they evva had was the gear change mech used to get stuck usually in 2nd from memory. Easy to fix but. Mine had a state of the art AIR CHIEF vibrator radio - who remembers those ..

I grew up at Glenelg in Sth Aus. and was a member of the Glenelg Surf Life Saving Club and used to drag the old surf boat all over the place with ease. It was a fergie motor - wet sleeve - amazing old bus.. many fond memories of the old girl..


Grrr!!! ps I am still 24yrs old...LOLOLL I wish...
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 20:36

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 20:36
I think some of the Younger ones would be thinking,what are they
going on about, but Hey thats the way it was in those days,
you could say things were Hard but Life was Simple, you could leave your Keys in the Car, and it would be still there the next Morning,
a Hand Shake was a Mans Agreement,
I'm glad I was part of it.

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Reply By: Member - Clive G (NZ) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 09:32

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 09:32
Good one again Doug.
I just love the guys hat. Used to service those air over oil hoists as an apprentice. Notice the spelling on the back wall sign. “MobiLubrication” text speak had already started in 1969.

Interesting place name Waikerie, sounds to have a Maori origin, Wai being a place of water that you can travel on.

CliveG. NZ
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 09:53

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 09:53
Clive
Prior to European settlement the area was probably inhabited by the Yuyu Aborigines. It is from their language that the town's name derived some sources believing that it means 'many wings or birds' or 'anything that flies'

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Reply By: Member - Rodney B- Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 10:12

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 10:12
In those days most cars had a chassis that you could put the hoist supports under the car without bending the floor pan. And how convienient to be able to swing the car around on the hoist. Had one of those Air over oil in 1969 in Darwin in my workshop.
Wish I still had it in my backyard today especially after putting new hand brake linings on the Cruiser yesterday and today I can hardly stand up.
Time does catch up.
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Follow Up By: curious - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 18:01

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 18:01
I was curious about the air over oil hoists in the pic. How did they work? Was it air driving an oil pump which then fed the main cylinder?
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Follow Up By: Member - Clive G (NZ) - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 19:07

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 19:07
Hi Curious.

The oil was held in a large receiver, often on the outside wall of the garage. This receiver is piped to the bottom of the hoist cylinder. It was necessary to bleed all the air out of the pipe work and hoist cylinder (just like brakes on a car) to ensure smooth operation.

To lift the hoist one simply turned on a tap that fed air from the garage compressor into the top of the oil receiver (air over oil). This drove the oil out of the receiver into the hoist cylinder and the hoist rose. To lower the hoist one shut off the tap from the compressor and opened another one to exhaust the air out of the receiver to atmosphere. The oil pipe should always have restrictor fitted to regulate the rise and fall rate of the hoist.

Almost invariably the hoist cylinder was of a displacement cylinder type. This means that it had no piston as such and was sealed at the top of the cylinder where the hoist shaft came out of the outer casing. The shaft itself is the piston and the lifting power is a function of the end area of that shaft x air pressure from the compressor.

They are a very successful hoist, though they had one very nasty habit as they got a bit old. The gland bearings at the top of the outer casing would wear and allow the hoist to tip over slightly when at the top of its stroke. It would then jam there when the mechanic tried to lower it. If he then left the down tap open, then walked over and gave the thing a shake to free it up and the hoist would go into free fall, the speed of which depended on whether the restrictor had been interfered with, and it often had. I think this is what caused their decline in popularity.

Sorry for the long dribble and hope I haven’t confused you to much.

CliveG NZ.
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Follow Up By: curious - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 22:01

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 22:01
Clive,
thanks for such a detailed explanation. I'd had some experience with hydraulics so your description "connected the dots" for me. It sounds like a neat design overall. Must admit I smiled when imagining the hoist's descent with a tinkered restrictor; I've seen similar results when someone's messed around with equipment and not considered the consequences.

- Peter
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Reply By: Member -Toonfish - Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 22:40

Sunday, Sep 07, 2008 at 22:40
my first car paddock bomb to roadworthied rocket was a cortina
mk2 cortina then fixed another motor into it from a 44o was a great girl to start off in although sterring and roll a little hairy at speed.
lol
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Reply By: Member - Dennis P (Scotland) - Monday, Sep 08, 2008 at 00:08

Monday, Sep 08, 2008 at 00:08
Sad to read this just now,

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24310138-5006301,00.html

My Dad was born in Waikerie in 1930.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Monday, Sep 08, 2008 at 00:46

Monday, Sep 08, 2008 at 00:46
Dennis
Good to see you keep in touch with Australian news . I knew John Cox , I see he can't make money from 213 acres , My Dad had 15 acres and moved out in 1970, 15 acres was ok in 1961 but by the end of the 60s wasn't viable ,Thanks for the link,

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Follow Up By: Member - Dennis P (Scotland) - Monday, Sep 08, 2008 at 01:33

Monday, Sep 08, 2008 at 01:33
No worries Doug,
Always keep in touch with home.

Dennis
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