Pathfinder Long Range Tank

Hi all,

I have a Pathfinder R51 which has the inaccurate fuel gauge problem ( don't they all). I am about to have a long range tank fitted, my question is will the long range tank still give me an inaccurate reading same as the main tank?

The R51 has an 80 ltr tank, when it indicates empty it still has approx 15 - 19 ltrs available, will this still happen with an aux tank fitted?

Put this question to Nissan service, answer, we don't know. So that is why I am asking the experts.

Barry H
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:02

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:02
What sort of a sender does it have.

If its just a float you can always bend it to give a better reading nearer to empty.
Some tanks read empty with a few litres in them as a safety margin

I put a 145 litre long range tank in my Patrol and it read full till it got below about 90 litres but read fairly true when empty.

Tried to alter it but wasnt room in partition of the tank.

Preferred it to be accurate at empty rather than when full.

When new owner bought it off dealer it was empty and he didnt

know it was a large tank and thought it had a hole in it when

it got up well over the 95litres of the original. LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Barry H (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:15

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:15
Graham H,

It is an electronic sender unit, it has been replaced twice, and is still inaccurate, I have had the instrument cluster replaced as well, and still it is inaccurate, Nissan now tell me it operates within specs, and there is nothing else they can or will do about it.

My main concern is the effect this will have on the aux tank.

I agree I want it to be accurate nearer empty than full.

When I first bough the car and it showed empty, the most I could put in the tank was 59 ltrs, before I realized there was a problem, even today if I fill up when the empty light comes on, it will only take 59 - 60 ltrs.

Barry H
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 15:29

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 15:29
A float does not ride on the top of the fluid. There will always be some distance between the top of the fluid and the bottom of the float. The bottom of the float will hit the bottom of the tank wit a considerable quantity of fluid still in the tank.

With this in mind why would you think the gauge would read accurately near empty.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 16:11

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 16:11
As I understand it fuel level gauges are calibrated by electrical means and can be adjusted so that the gauge reads correctly.

Usually this can be altered by bending the float arm to alter the electrical current going to the dashboard.

My Patrol one did this and was able to be altered by that simple means.
As I couldnt bend it to get it correct at both full and empty I just had it read more accurately at the empty end.

Was working on the theory that you dont need to know how full it is just how close you are to running out

As it was a 145 litre tank it still had a bit in it when reading empty, about 15 litres if I remember correctly and as I said most are adjusted to give you a safety reserve anyway
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:22

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:22
So what does it use to tell the height of the fuel in the tank, a float or some sort electronic wizardry.
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Reply By: disco driver - Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 15:37

Tuesday, Sep 23, 2008 at 15:37
Hi Barry,
In short "Yes,it probably will happen with the aux tank fitted."

If Nissan say that it's within tolerance there's not much else you can do.

Does it really matter??

As long as you are aware of the idiosyncracies of your own vehicles fuel gauge it should not be a major issue.
Once the low fuel light comes on you will know that you have 15 litres left. You should know reasonably accurately how far that 15 litres will get you. No sweat!! Fill up before you run out.

IMHO a fuel gauge that reads empty before it actually is, is much more preferable than one that still shows 1/4full and the vehicle dies through lack of fuel.

Just my thoughts

Disco.


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Reply By: Member - Chris & Debbie (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:26

Wednesday, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:26
Hi Barry
I fitted a long range tank to my D40 which will be the same as yours. The sender has a float on the end of an arm, this moves a contact on a wire wound variable resistor. When I fitting the tank, this arm needed to be extended, 80mm I think, the extension was in the fitting kit. This arm can be bent to give a more accurate reading (you have to wonder why the mechanics don't do this, no imagination I suppose). The best way to do this would be to temporally connect the sender and play around with it before fitting the tank, as you cannot get to it once the tank is fitted.

Hope this answers your question
Chris
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