Extra spare

Submitted: Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 13:32
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Hi all

In thread 60749 I asked for opinions on extra spare tyres and the carrying of and received a lot of good feedback. Well the trip is done and dusted so here are my thoughts to add to the collective.

We were officials on the re centre to Gold Coast rally so we couldn't afford to take risks that might hold us up. Altogether we covered about 11,550 kilometres in 20 days.

Most of our driving was around the 100 to 110 kmh on dirt as well as bitumen as we had tight schedules to meet.
We took two spare tyres, one on a rear carrier and the other inside the vehicle.
Tyre pressures approx 32psi on the dirt and 40psi on the bitumen.
Tyre problems Zero.
Travelled Melbourne to Alice on bitumen, Alice to Mt Isa via the Plenty, Isa to Normanton, Croydon Greenvale and Townsville on highways. Down past Burdekin dam and out the bottom on dirt before looping back through Charters Towers, Hughendon, Winton to Longreach then down through Windorah visiting Haddons corner and the dig tree on the way into Inamincka.
Down part of the old Strzkecki before cutting across to Cameron corner via the bore tracks and oil fields, then out through Tibuboora to Bourke and then bitumen all the way home via the Gold coast and down the Newell

This is the tenth long distance run we have done through this sort of country and in all that time we have suffered two punctures. Both punctures were in H/T tyres and were stones through the tread while running 40+ psi. Never a problem with A/T’s

Observations

Some vehicles had major tyre problems with up to four destroyed. They were inevitably running high pressures on the dirt (up to 60 psi) or were severely overloaded.

Trailers were destroyed on the Plenty hwy due to insufficient suspension compliance. They were too stiff and couldn't absorb the shocks resulting in breakages and rollovers. There was also a lot of tyre damage because the tyre appeared to be doing the suspensions work and some people just don't understand the importance of not overloading.

Spare wheel inside vehicle takes up too much room, on roof causes too much drag (fuel cost). Therefore based on our experience we would only take one spare next time and rely on our tyre repair equipment for backup.

We ran an 80 series cruiser on dual fuel. 80 litre LPG 90 litre fuel tank, 30 litres in a marine fuel tank and a 20 litre jerry can never looked like running out of fuel however the costs were scary at app 14mpg (app 20l/100k).

LPG is available more than we expected but the price was over the top meaning that sometimes it was cheaper to run on petrol.

The 30l marine tank was a safe and convenient way to carry fuel and didn't leak or smell unlike the brand new plastic jerry can. You burn more gas.

Diesel still appears the best way to go.

Toyota troopies with aftermarket turbo's and towing trailers seem to overheat a lot where standard configurations handled it ok

There is still heaps to see so get out there and enjoy it.

Thanks for the pre trip advice and I hope my comments help.

regards

Andrew

http://www.redcentretogoldcoasttrial.com.au
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Reply By: Member - Tony B (QLD) - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 14:05

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 14:05
Andrew. You are right you can get away with one spare most of the time. I gone around Australia a few times and had no troubles with tyres. But I have lived and worked remote and been caught short with one spare AND TWO COMPLETE BLOWOUTS. If you are going to go remote with the chance of not seeing anyone for quite a while then from experience if you do not wish to be driving on rims, take two spares. The general trip around Australia you took allows for one spare as there will always be someone comming by. Though I would not like to be flagging someone down because I was one spare short. At least carry the second casing, better to be safer then sorry. Cheers Tony. PS The speeds you were quoting will catch up with your tyres one day. :-)
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Reply By: Shaker - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:33

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 15:33
Andrew, trailer suspension is like canvas, we are educated that heavier is better, nothing could be further from the truth.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 16:19

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 16:19
Hi Andrew.

Does your lpg tank take up the room under the vehicle where another spare would usually go?

I have just done a short trip thorugh Vic/NSW and had an extra spare under the vehicle.

Just curious.

Thanks.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 17:27

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 17:27
Yes the LPG is underneath where the original spare went.

regards

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Footloose - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:04

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:04
Andrew, come on ...tell us the important bit. What was your placing ?
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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:29

Friday, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:29
Andrew generally your observations are pretty much as we've found it too over the years. I would however caution travelling above 100kph on those rocky roads with only one spare particually alone as the chances of stopping before a puncture turns into a shredded tyre is slim.
Cheers Craig............
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 28, 2008 at 15:56

Sunday, Sep 28, 2008 at 15:56
Hi there Andrew
We too travel almost by half those distances but mostly in rural properties with The Endeavour Rally. this year we were the Zero car, so as you do have to have the car up to Scratch. We run BF Muddies at 32 for the whole trip. No time for lowering and raising the pressures. Last Year we did two tyres on a grid. We fixed them later but gee were glad to have the two spares on the back and one under. The other two blow outs was this year one the Birdsville track and bitumen road just down the road from home. We blew the beed at 16psi getting out of a creek bed. i did one the other day up the drive way. Had a look at the date it was six years old.
Sharon
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