toyota v nissan
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Member - Brenton W (SA)
Hi all iam considering buying a new dual cab ute, i have narrowed it down to a nissan d40 diesel or a hilux diesel, i have a trakshak camper and looking for enough power to pull it with ease any thoughts
Reply By: Mark S (cns) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:11
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:11
Brenton
which one do you like best? that's all that really matters in the end! Take them both for good drive, and compare all specs. They will both do the job easily. Lux may cost more initially, but resales better, so evens out.
cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: stefan & 12 times Dakar winner - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:22
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:22
take the camper with you, and hook it up for the test drive
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Follow Up By: Member - Brenton W (SA) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:07
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:07
thanks for all the help, cant come to grips with the fact the niisan can develope so much torque from a 2.5 diesel compared to thr rest does it come at a cost of longevety of thr engine, is the trans and
suspension equal to the others
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:40
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:40
Gday,
Here is my completely un bias opinion....
All Toyotas are heaps beter than Nissans, everyone knows Nissans a krap!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:28
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:28
Hahahahaha!, Your got to big a stiring stick!!,...lol.
Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:46
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:46
Save some $ and have a look at a new D22 rather than the 40. They're a great unit and at $29K, you can't go wrong.
Cheers. Mick
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:49
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:49
P.S. Agree with Stefan totally. Organise for a test drive with the camper but remember what ever you get will probably need a bit of review of the
suspension set-up. They're all "soft-road" these days. I towed my
tambo trailer behind a D22 STR for 12 months. Wish I'd never sold that vehicle.
Mick
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:54
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 20:54
I'm interested as to why it has to be a Tojo or a Datsun?
Mitsubishi, Holden and Ford/Mazda make fine utes.
And of course there is the excellent value for money Ssangyong.
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:05
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:05
Don't forget the stylish Mahindra LOL
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: cheetah - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:07
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:07
I agree Jim, The triton is a very good unit and so is the Bt50. I have always been a toyota man (td100 current, 79 and 75 previous)but wont be in my considerations next vehicle (6 months). Their arrogance is there undoing.
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Reply By: Member - Marco T (VIC) - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:18
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:18
Brenton,
I have a D40 - great car, great on road, great off road with a few mods.
But they have big issues with the clutch and Nissan do not stand behind it (no warranty). You could go for the auto, but is heavy on fuel. In fact both the manual and auto are heavy on fuel. I have heard of one person that gets the Nissan 'claimed' efficiency , the rest get between 11-13 L/100. i get 12.5 city driving and 13.5 on open road. Towing expect 16 plus with the manual and more from the auto.
They also have had some chassis issues (bending behind cab) not covered under warranty.
Also brake issues (wearing out) some have had to change pads and rotors at 30,000km (no warranty). Just not on!!
I think myself lucky, I have only had the blinkers stop, indicators stop and lights turn on by themselves (can not turn them off - because they are off on the controls) and drivers window stop working 3 times. All not fixed yet.
I use this car for work and in my opinion is not strong enough. Not designed for Australian conditions. It is a realy comfortable car but I will not get another one.
Go the Hilux, Toyota is just a better I think. I had a hilux before this Navara and did not miss a beat in 250,000km. No clutch, no rotors, no bending chassis etc.
Goto www.complaintscorner.com.au and make your mind up.
All the best.
Marco
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:37
Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 21:37
For real life towing power, driver comfort & price, the Triton wins hands down. Our company just bought 40 of them. In the trials we found the Nissan's driver position (leg room) uncomfortable & the auto seemed poorly spaced hunting between gears particually at 60 kph. Despite it's excellent power on paper the Hilux struggled to keep up (with the Triton) when towing 1 tonne up hills. Their high price & poor availability is another factor.
Really when you look at the big 4 manufacturers of light utes they are all pretty close. Any advantage the Hilux had in years gone by is finished, in fact one could argue they are running 3rd at the moment. (Not in sales)
Take them for a test drive, towing if you can then pick the one that fits your needs. They'll all do the job.
Cheers Craig..........
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Reply By: hotfishez - Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:19
Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:19
I am in the same situation, Navara or Hilux. The Navara is the winner but I am concerned with the Nissan warranty and backup support. A friend has an 06 ST-X nissan with a factory fitted
snorkel and other extras. Went through a crossing approx 600mm deep and ingested
water into the air intake system and a solenoid to do with the turbo. Luckily enough no
water got into the engine but either way, getting any support from nissan was like pulling teeth and ened up with rather unplesant phone calls mainly with the service manager of the dealer but also with Nissan Aust. I have owned a triton in the past and have not really been fussed over buying another mitsi.
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Reply By: briann532 - Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008 at 16:46
Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008 at 16:46
Have you considered the Ford
Ranger.
yes I know its a mazda/ford, but I just bought one for work and it seems to be more than capable.
Whilst I drive a patrol for my off road and touring trips, (3rd one with no problems............but I won't go there!!!)
I think if you are after a dual cab ute, you may be suprised by the value of the
Ranger and or BT50.
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