Camping safety - alarms ???do they exisist ?

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:11
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Greetings - after my little unwelcome visitors a few weeks ago whilst camping - had an idea - some of us that sleep very well may not hear people coming into our camp area - im not talking within 100 meters -- im talking between where you would park your car and your tent / camper.....

Now does anyone know of any Proximity alarms that may be available ? Ie you have a sensor and a reflector set between your car and your caravan - or camper - and if the beam is broken then an alarm fires off --- yes i know there may be set offs where animals may be the culprits but still it may be worth knowing rather than not knowing .....

your thoughts or suggestions ?

Boc

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Reply By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:18

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:18
You can buy battery operated Passive Infra Red detectors with a built in alarm which are very effective for the situation you describe. Stores such as Dick Smith and Jaycar sell them for about $25.

Of course you could take a firearm as well.... (here pussy, pussy :)

Mike Harding :)
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:22

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:22
Dick Smith portable PIR
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Follow Up By: D200Dug- Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:23

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:23
I have a little dick smith personal alarm that has a lanyard pull or pressure switch to activate it.

I use it for my camera bag incase someone thinks they need my gear more than I do.

A 160 Db scream usually makes people think twice.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:20

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:20
Yes, I use a pull-pin type personal alarm and a length of fishing line. And always have a tyre lever within reach. Only time I thought it all might come in handy was on Fraser Island, of all places.

Jack
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Follow Up By: Member - T N (Qld) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:22

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:22
Claymore's are great anti-pilfering equipment, only don't use the P.E for boiling the billy!
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Follow Up By: Member - T N (Qld) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:22

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:22
Claymore's are great anti-pilfering equipment, only don't use the P.E for boiling the billy!
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:34

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:34
Yep you can get all that sort of stuff. Hot water systems, generators to fire up your lighting, frig, micro wave, lap top, cd player recharge facility for your mobile & satellite Nav gear, the list is endless. Chain saw for your firewood & maybe a lawn mower so as your tootsies won't get wet while you walk to the portable flush toilet.
After all we are out in the great outdoors roughing it. Happy camping & don't let nature interfere with your outdoor experience. LOL & enjoy what this great country has to offer.
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:47

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:47
LMAO - i have almost all those things you describe -- with exception of flush toilet -- mine is a manual pump type :)

as for the " dont let nature interfere with your outdoor experience"

the unwelcome guests i was referring two were to guys aged about 40, off there nuts on pot and drunk covered in tattoos that just wanted to see who was in the camp and who was very interested to know if i had anyone else joining me any time soon ........

Boc

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Follow Up By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:58

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:58
Hi Ozboc, I didn't mean to be offensive & I did not read your post ref unwelcome guests, I ve been away & I should have shut up.I "fired from the hip" John wayne style without thinking first. Sorry & best wishes & hope you do not have any further unwelcome experiences
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:23

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:23
Get away with you Ozboc - that kind of thing doesn't happen in the Australian bush and if it does it's so rare as not to be worth considering, those guys were probably just wondering if you needed some help, they would have given you the shirts off their backs... isn't that so John (Vic)?

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:49

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:49
They should have an open season on those type of people!
Lucky they didnt have long Hair and ride motorbikes too...they are the worst type...Hahahahahahaha

LOL
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:07

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:07
Hairy

Yesssssss!



ROTFLMAO


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:51

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:51
You may laugh Willem!
But I bet you wouldnt mix with that sort of scum would you?

LOL
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:59

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:59
I think I will quit while I am ahead......


LOL
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Reply By: oz doc - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:50

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 18:50
Hi Ozboc, how about a bit of fishing line attached to the important items- and the other end attached to some empty tinnies? Light/easy to set up and guaranteed to generate enough racket to draw attention.doc
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:13

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:13
Poor fella - Get ready to duck Boc . You are going to be tagged a paranoid ,feral , para military , Rambo , red neck , crazy ............................ and that's just the start .

Willie

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Reply By: austastar - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:29

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:29
Guess that would be one use for a woofensnapper.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:35

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 19:35
Yep, an Alarm Dog!
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:11

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:11
Yes , in the old days it was great company and great protection to travel with your dog . Now with NPs and baiting , it is not such a good idea . That's progress ?
Willie
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:55

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:55
I gave up on the dog as travelling companion when one of my favourite spots went from Recreation Area to Conservation Area.

Guess the powers that be didnt want muttly scaring the feral pigs and goats roaming the camp areas ..........
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:15

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:15
Oztroopy

I tend to stay away from parks and reserves or places where there are lots of people. But even in the outback and remote camps you may come across other campers.

Our dog is very protective and will bark at any prospective intruders within 500metres of the camp. This is good as those campers tend to say " Oh S... they've got a dog...lets go and camp far away from them".....LOL

'Twas 1970 and we were waiting to get accommodation in Darwin so slept in the car on the edge of the beach at Rapid Creek(its all built up now). About 2am the Foxy started growling and in the moonlight I saw a 'local' move slowly towards our car. Dog started barking. I got out of the car. Had the old .22 handy and fired a shot over the head of the would be assassin. Yells of fright as the bushes below erupted and many legs were seen scurrying away in the semi darkness. We all slept well after that.

Yeah, I know, those days are long gone and I don't even keep a firearm in the car any more. The dog is still the best form of alarm.


Cheers
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Follow Up By: OzTroopy - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:29

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:29
I've moved with the times and gone electronic .... LOLOL

Still preferred a mutt though ... a noisy piece of plastic just doesnt have that " scare " value.

And cleaning shotguns guns fired in the air in the middle of the night is a PITA too ... Jan 1984 ? ... somewhere around Avon Downs between flooded creeks. Lots of teeth seen levitating outside the windows.

Mind you, that birdfrite was good stuff for the first warning.
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Follow Up By: Anthony (Vic) - Friday, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:22

Friday, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:22
Oztroopy .... that birdfrite sure gets your attention.

It was once used near me for an early morning wake up call. I had no trouble staying awake after it was let off.
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Reply By: OzTroopy - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:52

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:52
Hey Ozboc

The first thing to know about alarms is - the cheaper the sensor type - the less sleep you will get.

The detectors as Mike Harding described work reasonably well ... Just ensure that they are a PIR detector ... as the standard movement sensor ones and even cheap PIR models are as annoying as those cheap security lights ... On more than Off ...

Additionally make sure they are mounted ay the correct height - always check the mounting instructions .. they can vary depending on the lenses fitted.

If you are secure in a van the short range ones woud be adequate.

As alarm systems run on 12v, I use a small cheap key operated household alarm hooked into the car, and a pair of quality Optex cx70 long range detectors for at night. Alarm activates the car air horns. I'm a sound sleeper ... LOLOL ... as a side benefit I hooked door switches and driving light wiring in as well for daytime use.

The detectors , which are still available according to the internet are good for about 60' range in normal mode or about 120' as a long distance beam. The technology of these is such that small birds & rodents etc wont set them off ... takes something about dogsize or bigger .... like a wombat ... LOLOL

Dont have that many places I bother setting it up but I have had your concerns as experiences as well.

The noise wont stop them taking much but at least I wont walk back into camp with nothing but a bog roll in my hand and find some characters emptying out my vehicle and tent, like the last time .....

Fishing line hooked to a switch like a pull out, marine ignition, safety switch and the car horns is also effective.

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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:34

Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 at 21:34
Ozboc, same problem where we camp, our house.

300 metres from the Colonial Tavern. Happens every payday.

Thinking about putting a sign at the front:

'Northam Employment Agency'

That should scare them off........LOL.

Cheers......Lionel.
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