Diesel motor conversion

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:35
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Hi Everyone,
Im contenplating converting my GQ Patrol (4.2 EFI Petrol whcih has just done 260K Kms) to a Diesel motor. we tow a Camprite camper so I dont get the economy I used to when we go away. I do already have extractors, K&N air filter and a 2.5inch exhaust I put on the car many years ago in an effort to get better performance - which the extractors provided..
The car is in perfect condition - no rust at all, so swapping to a newer 4wd would cost many dollars - but not neccesarily provide me a better 4wd.

I was thinking of the Chevy 6.5L done at Brunswick Diesel.
has anyone else in WA had a differnet motor swapped into their 4wd such as a Cummins or Perkins?
and are there other companies in Perth that do the motor swap outs as well as Brunswick do?

thanks for any thoughts/opionios/feedback
regards
Bryan
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:59

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 15:59
Have you thought about LPG?
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 21:51

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 21:51
Few do John.

Buggered if I understand why not. It's simple maths.

Anyway, each to his own.

Disclaimer: LPG may be expensive and/or have limited availability in remote locations.

Jim.

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Reply By: ob - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 16:36

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 16:36
Bryan

Any reason why you want a different brand of engine? I would thought a turbo diesel 4.2 nissan would be much easier and cheaper to adapt. The clutch and gearbox may bolt straight up

Cheers ob
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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 16:57

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 16:57
Bryan.....just a thought but can you just swap petrol for diesel like that.....isn't the gearbox ratio's and diff ratio's for a petrol different than for a diesel ?

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Follow Up By: Foxhound (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:14

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:14
I believe they have to change the diffs in the GQ.
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Follow Up By: Bryan (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:26

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:26
ok, based on this and Foxhounds info - I have a bad idea..
a couple beers will fix this :-) and I'll put the savings towards a newer 4wd.

thanks for your info

regards
Bryan
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Reply By: Foxhound (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:11

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:11
Converting your GQ engine to a Brunswick Diesel is an expensive project but the end result is excellent to say the least. However, the way I see it is this, your GQ is now over 10 years old and the market value would be fairly low. With the conversion to the Chevy the cost is around $16000-$20000 much more than the vehicle is worth on the market even with the V8 taken into consideration. If you intend to keep it for many years to come that's fine but as you know most of us tend to trade up every 4-6 years. Say it cost $18000 for the conversion and your GQ trade in price is $12000=$30000, that money would put you in the market for a much later model factory built diesel. Of course it`s your choice and what suits you and what you use the vehicle for. Anyway just my thoughts and another angle for you think on..Regards ,,,Foxhound(WA)
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Follow Up By: Bryan (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:24

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:24
Hi Foxhound.
Damm about the estimated cost - the engine would be worth more than the car. which is never good :-(
it sounds like I better go back to the drawing board and leave the car alone untill it dies or changed completely - putting the money towards a newer 4wd.
regards
Bryan
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Reply By: Smudger - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:42

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:42
Mate, I'm very disappointed with the economy of my 80 series. Traded up to her from a V8 Disco about a year ago. If I was you I'd be contemplating doingup the exisitng donk and converting to direct injected LPG. Keep original fuel tank and install an 80 litre LPG tank, that's all you need around town. Out bush you might need to fill up more often, but what's wrong with that. Before selling the Disco to him we toured through the centre a couple of times and right across the top end. There aren't many places that you can't get LPG, and if you keep the original petrol tank/s, you're not going to run dry anyway. And think about the extra range it'll give you.
My son now has my old Disco, which was on LPG. We drove in convoy from Adelaide to Sydney just after Easter this year. He spent $240 on LPG, and diesel cost me $360. We filled up at the same servo before leaving. He had the fridge and all the camping gear in his car, I just had self, wife and the dog.
If I could afford to trade cars at whim, I'd swap the diesel 80 series for a petrol on direct injected LPG.
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Reply By: Dave B (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 20:27

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 20:27
Bryan, something that is always in my mind about updating to a later model.
Stamp duty on the changeover.
Now, I am very happy with my 22 y.o. 60 series, but I know things are going to go wrong somewhere down the track and I will have to spend some big $$.
If I have to spend a couple of grand or there abouts on repairs, well the $1500 or more I gave to the Govt. for the stamp duty would go a long way to paying for the repairs.
That's my opinion anyway, 'cause I am still happy with my 60.
I have set it up the way I want it, and if I get another vehicle, I have to start all over again.

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Follow Up By: Bryan (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 21:35

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008 at 21:35
Hi Dave,
Thats a good point.
my GQ is setup how I want it.
we have the 4wding show on here this weekend, so I think I'll chat to the guys at Brunswick while there to get osme more costs, info.

thanks
regards
bryan
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 20:30

Wednesday, Nov 12, 2008 at 20:30
Bryan

How about thinking outside the square.

Have a look around for a mid to late 90's GQ 4.2 diesel. You may still pick one up in fair nick for around $8-10,000 with under 200,000 on the clock. Transfer all the gear off your current vehicle to the diesel and keep it for spare parts or eventually sell it and recoup some money.


Cheers
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