Advice re rear wheel carrier for Troopie

Submitted: Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 07:36
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Would like advice (for/against) whether to fit a rear wheel carrier to a new Troopie or to leave it on the back door. I plan on lots of remote travel including the CSR, Pilbara & Kimberly region. Would hate to think that the corrugations would end up affecting the door hinge.
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Reply By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 07:55

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 07:55
My only advice would be to fit the twin wheel carrier if you fit one at all... usually with outback touring, two spares at least is the norm. I have one fitted to my GQ Patrol, (Kaymar, bought and fitted at TJM Nerang, SE Qld) as much as to take the weight off the door as to have the two spares, and it's a beauty! They are heavy though, so count on having your suspension checked after having it fitted to sort out any issues that may arise.

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Brian
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Reply By: traveller2 - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:12

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:12
I ran troopies with the spare on the standard rear door carrier for years without any problems including the CSR and most of the harder tracks.
Only ever carried a second tyre case on the roof, figured if I bent a wheel I'd have bigger problems than just a bent wheel.
You must keep the door and latch adjusted correctly otherwise the door will squeak.
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:14

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:14
Marilyn,
The spare on the door is ok if you do limited off road. Since you say you plan lots of remote travel = dirt roads & corrugations, I would definitely go with the Kaymar carrier. We have one on our 100s and it works well. On our troopy we have no spare on the door because of the known problem with cracking.

Friends of ours with a troopy have just reported cracking around the top hinge due to the wieght. This allowed the door to shift and let lots of dust in which is how they realised it had happened.

alastair
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Reply By: Member - Marilyn P (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 09:30

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 09:30
Thanks guys for your advice. My opinion was to go Kaymar rather than the door but a close friend offered contrary advice - although he's barely been off the tar. His reasoning was that surely Toyota was aware of the problem in previous Troopies & so the hinge & door reinforcement should have been improved. "Should" is the operative word. I have a '97 model Troopie & yes the door moved, cracks have been welded but still there & dust in the car is my constant friend. I'm convinced - Kaymar will have another customer. My second spare will be in the belly of the car - not too keen on heavy stuff on the roof racks.
Thanks again. Know I can find an answer through Exploroz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:21

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:21
Marilyn....I have the spare on the door and I also have a steel roof rack on which I carry another spare plus a lot of other stuff as well....no cracking or anything else and no dust or squeaking or any other problems and I travel all sorts of places...ie GCR...GRR..Cape Leveque...Mereenie loop near Kings Canyon....Kakadu...etc etc...no problems...so if it aint broke why fix it...the troopy is a very strong and robust vehicle...and I tow, at times, a 21ft 2500kg tandem van as well....obviously it comes down with what you want...but as I say, the present arrangement works for me.
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Reply By: Member - jay D (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:15

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:15
http://www.oppositelock.com.au
Hi Marilyn
You could also look at Opposite lock brand, they do a twin wheel carrier with options that is much lighter than the other brand and also you retain your original tow bar and rear lights. They seem to sell them to commercial users.

cheers
jay
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Follow Up By: Member - Marilyn P (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03
Thanks Jay, chasing that up now - the closest O/L to me is >300 km away in Dubbo. They're organising a quote now.
Marilyn
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Follow Up By: Member - jay D (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 14:57

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 14:57
Marilyn

You should also keep your eyes on all the 4x4 for sale sites on the web, i picked my rear bar up for less than a quarter of the retail price. There are bargains to be had if keep yourself aware.

jay
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Reply By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:22

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:22
Hi Marilyn
I thought long and hard a bought the the same thing, read and followed up on a lot of posts on this site and other group sites.
I have a Kaymar double carrier on on the back of my Troopy Camper. Hanging on the front end is a Steel bar, Winch etc. I feel the extra weight at the back counter balances the extra at the front.
If you want to get in the back for something minor, unclipping the carrier before you open the door can be a little annoying but then I think it is another security feature, nobody is going to walk past and flicik the door handle to check if it is locked.
The carriers give the option of fitting HF aerial, jack carrier, etc as well.
I would doubt if Toyota would have changed the back doors, changes take a long time to happen with a good thing. I have two MWB Toyotas here on the farm and as far as I can tell the 2008 Ttoopy in Aus has the same back door carrier set up as the 1985 model on the farm.
Hey enjoy
I travelled 12,500 Ks last trip, and coming back for more, booked in for another month next time.
Cheers
Russ
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 16:35

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 16:35
Marilyn,

As stated in other replies a twin wheel carrier is the way to go, but a word of warning, be seated when you are told the cost of the unit.

One very popular brand wanted over $3000. With that price I decide to make my own.

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One of the spares has been removed so you can see the ladder and the mounting for the HF aerial.

Once the spare tyre was moved from the back door I was able to make a ladder that bolted to the rear door using the captive nuts that held the wheel carrier on.

Both these items have lasted the distance, over a lot of corrugations and outback trips.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 20:40

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 20:40
We have fitted a Kaymar Duel wheel carrier on our Troopy specifically for carrying a 15 hp outboard on one side.
They are VERY HEAVY!!!
I have had 3 Troopy's and have never had a problem with the rear door. My advice would be to stick with the standard set up and learn how to change a tyre and just carry spair tubes and tyre carcase in the UNLIKELY event you should have to change one.
You will have suspension issues otherwise. Which will see you spend even more money and add more weight!
I have OME 600kg spring pack on the back and that wasn't heavy enough so I then had to get air bags, another $800.
Keep it simple.
My two bobs worth.
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 22:15

Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 22:15
Hi
The need for a second spare depends on where you travel.

If its on formed gravel roads. probably one is enough, if you go remote with lots of cross country or driving on little used tracks and seismic lines then two complete wheels if the better bet.

I have on two occasions wrecked two tyres on one such trip, where would I have been with one spare?

Its really up to you - only you know where you intend to travel and plan accordingly.

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Reply By: Member - Marilyn P (NSW) - Friday, Nov 14, 2008 at 07:04

Friday, Nov 14, 2008 at 07:04
Thanks guys for the advice. You've given me options I wasn't aware of. More homework but informed choices is the only way to go.
Marilyn
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon K (SA) - Friday, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:39

Friday, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:39
Just remember if you run split rims they are virtually indestructible and there is no way you would destroy two. Carry 2 carcasses four or five tubes, tube patches and spair gators(rubber lining inside tire). As said, learn how to change them, you will need too anyway as there is no guarantee that you will never get more that two punchers. You will save yourself thousands + weight = a more capable 4x4 and you won't have to swing it out the way every time you want to open the back door.
Cheers Lyndon
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