NextG Mobiles

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 13:41
ThreadID: 63718 Views:3710 Replies:18 FollowUps:23
This Thread has been Archived
Can any one advise/recommend a Country mobile phone for outside regional zones please?
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 13:55

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 13:55
I have a Samsung A412. Can add a car kit but I find it works fine without. As good as CDMA with kit.........oldbaz.
AnswerID: 336443

Follow Up By: Rossc0 - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:25

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:25
Second this.

If you want prepaid then the A411, same phone just prepaid.

Cheers
Ross


0
FollowupID: 604116

Follow Up By: Bongo (Darwin NT) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:32

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:32
It has my vote as well.

Cheers,
0
FollowupID: 604118

Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:36

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:36
I'll join the queue though I don't think they'd last long if you dropped them a lot as per a reply below.

0
FollowupID: 604119

Follow Up By: Zebra400 - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:45

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:45
I have a Samsung A411. I worked well when traveling on outback Vic & SA.

I dont have a car kit but have an old external antenna from a previous phone.

Does anyone know if you can buy a plug to go on the end of the antenna cable so I can plug it right into the back of the phone.

I dont' see the need for a car kit, but the external antenna would be good to use again.
0
FollowupID: 604121

Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 15:20

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 15:20
Thumbs up from me also for the Samsung A411. Works well for me in areas where my CDMA struggled.
Fred.
0
FollowupID: 604123

Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 18:40

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 18:40
I still have a samsung A501, think it was one of the original NextG phone, what a tough ones, must have dropped it 3 or 4 time on the hard stuff and not a worry. Will have to look at the new ones some time.

Cheers Bruce
0
FollowupID: 604147

Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 20:22

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 20:22
Samsung A412 is good.
I also tried LG TU550 & Sony Ericsson Z750i, both hopeless.
0
FollowupID: 604161

Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 21:47

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 21:47
My vote as well, we have found our A412 great.

Cheers

D


Simba, our much missed baby.

Lifetime Member
My Profile  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 604174

Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:00

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:00
I'm currently using an employer-provided ZTE F165 and it's going very well.

I bought a blootooth in-car gizmo off ebay and that takes the need for an in-car kit off the agenda.

The phone has a small retractible antenna (unusual in this day and age), but I've never had to extend it to get signal so far.

The phone itself is a bit bigger than a lot on the market and that has translated into bigger keys that I have less difficulty with than the previous phone, where I could press 3 bloody buttons at once if I wasn't careful!!! hahaha
AnswerID: 336444

Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:13

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:13
Vote 2 for the F165. I am yet to see any other Next G phone without a car kit have reception where mine hasn't. Of the 4 phones to choose from in our company they have the lowest return rate being able to withstand repeated dropping.
Cheers Craig...............
0
FollowupID: 604114

Follow Up By: Mad Cowz (VIC) - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:49

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:49
Vote 3, I have the proper car kit so as to use the 6.5bd antenna, have had reception in a few places I didn't expect. As far as phones go it is a PITA to use, not as intuitive but I got it for the reliability of range and the rubber stoppers on the holes to stop stuff getting in. I just swap out the sim card to my N95 nokia for runs to the big smoke.
MC
Carpe Cerevisi

Lifetime Member
My Profile  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 604346

Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:08

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:08
Ian, Telstra have a number of Blue Tick phones for outer regional areas. Our business has a number of the Nokia N95 phones which are pretty good and are carriers of the Blue Tick.

I have an HTC Touch Dual 850, which gets through too pretty well, though without the acknowledgment I have used a PDA for years and the HTC does the job better than the digital phone I had. If I take the battery cover off I can plug in a patch lead for the high gain antenna. I have been surprised by my phone against the N95s

Mad Cowz has a Country phone too of Telstra, but all the feedback I get from users of that particular phone is that it is very quirky to use. I know someone who tested it for Telstra and she doesn't particularly like it. I don't see it among the current lineup though. It has a pull out antenna.

I know people with 6120 phones, and some of the others too that are well regarded
AnswerID: 336445

Reply By: tazbaz - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:12

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:12
The Samsung 411 works well. It has bluetooth. I saw one (new) in a shop near Gosford a few days ago for $100 including $10 of telstra credits.
AnswerID: 336446

Reply By: JR - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:20

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:20
Ive owned a few and use them all day and recommend Nokia 6120c, or next Ill probably get the E51
JR
AnswerID: 336449

Reply By: Peter 2 - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:34

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 14:34
another vote for the Nokia 6120 + force mount which allows capacitive connection to external antenna as well as power.
AnswerID: 336450

Follow Up By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 18:39

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 18:39
yep, another 6120 vote here.
0
FollowupID: 604146

Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:49

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:49
Ditto - 6120 with force cradle and external antenna.

Mind you my criterea was that it had to be a Nokia, I have tried tons of other phones and they all fall way short of Nokia in ease of use.
0
FollowupID: 604199

Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:20

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:20
Hi Ian,

I also give a vote for the Nokia 6120 and the Nokia cradle. It works brilliantly in the cradle with my external antenna. So much better coverage than I ever had on CDMA.

Willie
0
FollowupID: 604218

Follow Up By: chisel - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 15:50

Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 15:50
Does anyone have a link to a website the exact cradle/antenna that you use with the 6120?
0
FollowupID: 607390

Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 16:13

Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 16:13
Force cradle with charger connection and FME esternal antenna connection p/n RC-CR6120

http://www.forcetechnology.com.au/productsearch.php?p=products%2Fproductsearch%2F&srcstr=cradle&srcbrand=00000004WR00000006JK&srccat=0000003VWN0000000253&submit.x=37&submit.y=12&next=21&partno=RC-CR6120
0
FollowupID: 607392

Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 15:44

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 15:44
Hi Ian

If you are talking 'outside regional zones' then NextG won't help you either. It is only of use only in heavily populated areas, major towns and some larger mining ventures. In most of these towns GSM works too. A good car kit and antenna will extend the range a bit when just out of town. In between and around most of Australia you will need a Satellite phone.

Modern technology is wonderful - they keep changing it so they can sell us more stuff, and we now have a system that has less coverage on our farm than we had with the old Analogue network. Can anyone remember back to then? The Analogue phone was about the size of a brick!

Motherhen
Motherhen

Red desert dreaming

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

AnswerID: 336457

Follow Up By: Ray - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 09:01

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 09:01
Yes I remember. My first mobile was contained in a bag. The hand piece was on a cable the size of a normal phone. In the bad was all the workings and a large 12v battery plus a spare. The who thing must have weighed 5 kgs and was carried with a shoulder strap. Cost me $750.00 in the early 80s. There were no plans in those days and Telecom, as they were called then, had the monopoly.
0
FollowupID: 604200

Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:16

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:16
You're really confusing people.

3G is only provided in major centres.

NextG is the ONLY network that has major coverage in remote areas.
0
FollowupID: 604217

Follow Up By: Motherhen - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 13:20

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 13:20
Hi Mike

Hi Ian

Ian asked about OUTSIDE regional zones.

Check out the Telstra maps for Next G and 3G/GSM coverage maps.

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/state.html

While Next G coverage may extend a bit further outside of the towns (in theory and according to their map; not necessarily when you get out there), the places covered by both networks are similar, and the vast rest of Australia is Satellite only coverage. Zoom in, and the brown area becomes very speckled.

NextG does not have major coverage in remote areas. NextG cover in remote areas is in fact very minimal.

The map is not all that useful when trying to work out exactly which towns or communities are covered, as it only shows a few place names on the map. Be aware also that many of the 'spots' in the outback are on Aboriginal communities which don't have public access, and are not on the 'through roads'.

Anyone buying a NextG phone thinking they have coverage for emergencies for their outback touring are bitterly disappointed. I found that in most towns that had NextG my old Nokia GSM also worked well.

Even the high profile international tourist destination of Kings Canyon resort in NT has NO mobile phone coverage whatsoever. Uluru resort does has excellent cover - about the best we found.

There are still staff in Telstra call centres telling people that NextG coverage is over 99% of Australia (it is 99% of the population - all the capital cities and a few more regional centres and the population % is covered), and are in total disbelief when told of the vast areas not covered.

We have a farm in the SW of WA - hardly remote. There was coverage on the hills with the old analogue, none when they changed to CDMA. Eventually new coverage points were put in for CDMA and it was covered - then it all changed. Now with NextG, there is reception at the highest points only - not even at the house which is on a hill top in the centre of the property.

For someone only travelling the highways on the east coast, NextG coverage may do. NextG is useless for genuine outback travel.

Motherhen


Motherhen

Red desert dreaming

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 604240

Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 21:48

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 21:48
"It is only of use only in heavily populated areas"

????? Go to Next G coverage maps and go to Broken Hill and keep zooming out till you see Cobar also.

This is a heavily populated area ?

Everyone else posting here believe's that NextG is the answer to the question.
0
FollowupID: 604304

Follow Up By: Motherhen - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 22:07

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 22:07
Mike, i have stated a number of different facts in my answers. These contain sound advice to those going out into the outback. The issue is the vast areas that don't have coverage - not the lesser percentage of areas that do. I also did mention cover in mining areas.

The original question asked about coverage outside regional zones, indicating a need for phone coverage in what on the Telstra maps is in yellow, where many of us ExplorOz members choose to travel.

Motherhen
Motherhen

Red desert dreaming

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 604311

Follow Up By: get outmore - Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 00:15

Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 00:15
I have a blue tick LG 500 It wont even work in highly populated areas. I recently took a trip thrugh the densly populated areas soth of Perth. It stopped woking about 10 minutes after leaving Pickering brook which is a Perth suburb. It worked occasionally through the weatbelt and obviosly through towns but for mos tof my trip arounf Nth of Albany and west of there it didnt work
0
FollowupID: 607490

Reply By: RobAck - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 17:49

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 17:49
It's not so much the choice of phone it is your choice of antenna that will improve the send and receive capability of NextG phones. Any handheld will be quite limited in range but if you put a decent external antenna on things improve markedly. But that is again dependant on the amount of traffic on the cells themselves.

RobA
AnswerID: 336466

Reply By: Holden4th - Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 22:47

Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 22:47
I was in Winton in the middle of the year with a school group and urgently needed to contact a parent.There were twelve adults, all with mobiles from varying telcos, including 5 who were with Telstra and had NextG. Only one phone worked - the Samsung A411 - a prepaid. (the A412 is the plan version). I bought one of these from Aldi for $99 and it includes a bluetooth headset.(They are still available here in Nerang). I really like this phone. It's no frills but it does have bluetooth which is a plus if you're driving. The downside is paying Telstra's excessive NextG charges. For the price of the phone and you're going rural it can't be beaten AFAIC.
AnswerID: 336502

Reply By: P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:52

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 08:52
I've just changed over my LG TU500 (which was great) to a Palm Treo Pro, the only smart phone with a blue tick. It has worked everywhere I have expected it too thus far.

plus i get all my emails, contacts, and can even run Oziexplorer with the inbuilt GPS ;-)


cheers

Dave
AnswerID: 336529

Reply By: Pebble - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:15

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:15
I can confirm that the A411 is better than the LG version (TU550?), when it comes to reception. The school bus driver here had the LG and didn't have reception where I could get it with the A411, the Telstra "brick type" phone seemed pretty good in the reception department too, but like someone has mentioned it is bigger in size, and yes it looks like a durable phone to me.

At the time of purchase the store told me that the Nokia (can't remember the model) was as good reception wise but didn't show that accurately in the number of bars it would have on the screen (ie may show zero bars when it has 2 bar equivalent reception). That was just according to testing people had done on the different models out in the real world.

In saying that we're only 15k's out of town (or a rural property) and I only get 2 bars reception at most, apparently we're not too far from the tower either so???, since we're building a house & living in a big shed to take any calls I leave the phone by the door and have to go outside for reception when it rings! But it's good enough anyway, and I have not tried any external antennae which I imagine would probably solve the problem.

In regards to GSM - no chance of reception here! Now that I have had to make the step to nextG I think it's great, I can get reception for longer when travelling to other towns etc or going out bush riding my mountain bike.
AnswerID: 336535

Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:20

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:20
Even though the Samsung A411 is the cheapest NextG phone, all owners seem to agree that it's great for reception, battery life and reliability.

I've found it's coverage is pretty close to what's shown on Telstra coverage maps.

It has a socket for an external antenna.

KMart, JBHiFi etc are all selling them for $99 now, but Aldi include the Bluetooth earphone for that price.
AnswerID: 336543

Reply By: Sixtys Guy - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:39

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:39
I have the Telstra ZTE165. It has the Telstra 'tick'. Works great. The big benefit is that you can get a handsfree kit with it that can have an external antenna plugged into it.
AnswerID: 336546

Reply By: long haired nomad - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:34

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:34
Zebra400,
You can get a patch lead for your aerial/phone connection off ebay for between $15-$25 delivered. Look in the mobile phone section under Cables and connections.
AnswerID: 336553

Reply By: Member - Ian F (WA) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 15:57

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 15:57
Thanks everyone for your help I have had a LGTU500 but the car kit (supplied) can be a pain in the neck as you have to plug the spk/mic in seperately and don't quote me but I think that the ext/ant plug isn't physically connected to the phone.
Ian
AnswerID: 336569

Follow Up By: Motherhen - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 16:14

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 16:14
Hi Ian

We got the LG phone with car kit - car kit cost hundreds for a bit of plastic which broke - cradle bit snapped off where it joins the bit that goes onto the dash - while on the bitumen (OK we had been travelling on dirt prior to it breaking). We had local techo wire in the speaker and mike, and have a switch so it can all be turned on and off independently of the ignition.

Mh
Motherhen

Red desert dreaming

Lifetime Member
My Profile  My Blog  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 604259

Reply By: Member - GRANT HID(NSW) - Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 21:32

Sunday, Nov 23, 2008 at 21:32
I have a 6120 which i use around the city which works well,then on a recent trip to the kimberly i use a ZTE 165 with a external aerial plugged in the back of the phone i would get great coverage.
AnswerID: 336631

Reply By: mob - Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 21:49

Monday, Nov 24, 2008 at 21:49
Telstra recommend the country phone but with car kit which I have, better than CDMA. The Federal Member of Parliament for New England did a survey idriving around his electorate with various phones and found a particular Nokia Next G phone (without car kit) is the best by a country mile. Having been with someone who has one I would have to agree.
If you are really serious,install a serious antenna.
AnswerID: 336763

Reply By: ben_gv3 - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 13:29

Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 13:29
I'm researching into buying the Samsung A411 as well.

Can it be plugged into a laptop so I can send emails, surf the web for basic things?

TIA
AnswerID: 339837

Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 13:56

Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 13:56
Yes it can be used as a modem. You need a "Data Pack" from Telstra and then just plug it in and surf away. You can get prepaid data packs or pay upfront. Check out Telstra's internet sites for rates.

Rod
0
FollowupID: 607372

Sponsored Links

Popular Products (9)