Ghan siding murder.

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 18:00
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I have been weighing up the pros and cons of posting this story for a while now. I don’t want to be seen as stirring up old memories to get someone in trouble, but my curiosity has the better of me.

Here goes!

Has anyone heard the story of the murder/execution at either Pedirka or Abminga siding? When I was working at Finke I heard the story and then again many years later I heard it from a dozer driver visiting Mintabie.

The story goes that this happened after heavy rain in the 1960’s and the roads and Ghan Railway were impassable.

One day a very drunk and troublesome fettler burst into the crib room at the siding, shot the clock off the wall and then pointed his shot gun at the diners. He told them he was going to shoot the lot of them.

Before he could fire the next shot, someone crept up behind him and grabbed the gun. They all then overpowered him and pinned him to the floor. He was asked if he was going to behave now that he had no gun.

He told them he had guns hidden all through the bush and would come back and kill them all, one at a time, if he had to.

The others in the room took a vote and decided to shoot him.

They did!

Of course when the police finally arrived no one could remember who had actually pulled the trigger.

There are other matching gruesome details which I heard from both sources that made me think it could be a true story. Does anyone know any more about it?
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 18:40

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 18:40
Gday,
Cant say I have but I know a few people and others whos fathers worked and lived along the track.
Ill ask them when I see them.

Cheers
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Reply By: aussiedingo - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 19:55

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 19:55
I was in the Oodnadatta hotel in early 70's & played poole with some people that said that one of the players had killed a fettler on the line, (I have some pic's of us all) I don't know if there is any connection, ( a lot more I cannot print) there were 4 in our group & all a little uncumfortable staying the night in the pub. regards, dingo
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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:00

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:00
What's a fettler?


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Follow Up By: aussiedingo - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:02

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:02
This particular person saw himself in a pic I took on a polaroid camera & we were told that this was the first time he had seen a pic of himself & grabbed the pic & took off! During our poole game & the time we spent there he was very sociable & very nice - good company
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Follow Up By: Fiona & Paul - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:13

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:13
A Fettler is a railway maintenance worker, keeping the track serviceable, laying sleepers, putting in new railway line, ballast and that sort of stuff.
Did that for a number of years when they were putting in the long rails between Sydney and Broken Hill to connect the Indian Pacific.
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Follow Up By: aussiedingo - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:15

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:15
A fettler is a person on the rail network repairing, re aligning the tracks, doing all the manual work keeping the rail lines safe & workable - a hella of a big job, such responsibility! I remember in the bush on the train when the detonators went off & we slowed down the fettlers would call out for any newspapers - that's communication! Now machines do it all & all of those types of people are out of a job, also every small country railway station had a station master, a gardener, a ticket collector & refreshment rooms, lotsa employment! dingo
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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:24

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:24
Great!! Thanks fellas.




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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 21:09

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 21:09
gees Alan , you need to get out more...
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Follow Up By: equinox - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 23:17

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 23:17
lol yeah I know...to much to see and learn these days

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Reply By: Member - Roger T (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:09

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:09
great post, outback history,not o/t.thats what it's about for me.
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Reply By: furph - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:54

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:54
The outback has many colourful yarns like that, and I rather suspect many of them are true.

This one for example.
Due east of the Diamantina NP is a very large opal field on Kurran station. It's also a very remote area and noted for some tough operators on that field.

The story goes that a couple of (innocent?) fossickers had heard that "easy pickings" were to be had on leases whilst the owner was away.

Seems that they were "sprung" by a lease holder who, on returning from a session in Jundah caught the pair red handed. Instead of apologising and making amends by handing over the opal they decided to make an argument about it.

"Mr X" went over to his vehicle, took out a rifle and disposed of the pair on the spot.
He then loaded them into their Cruiser and drove it some distance from his camp, brought the excavator over from the mine and within an hour their whole shebang was 3meters below ground.
Never ever to be found.

My knowledge of this, well I heard the story in Opalton late one night when a fair bit of rum had gone down.
Then later I actually heard the bloke who was involved make the comment about someone he was offside with: "I will put that "barsteward" in the ground like I did the other two".

It would seem that people go missing all the time, and uless you have good communications it can be impossible to determine where a party last was seen. This happened about 16yrs. ago, well before sat. phones, epirb etc.
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Follow Up By: handy - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:16

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:16
if they drained some of them big water holes on the diamantina they woujd get a big suprise what they would find there.
heard a few stories over the years of miners going missing.
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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:57

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2008 at 20:57
heard he was a collingwood supporter too....
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Follow Up By: Tippa - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 19:32

Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 at 19:32
Mexican i bet... everything has to come back to a back-jumping, ball dropping, pig skin punching "sport" ha ha. Grew up in sydney, lived down there for 5yrs.... every damned conversation was about "football". Enough to turn me off it for life.
Sorry, just had to vent...
Back to mysterious outback murders!
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Reply By: mintabiegeoff - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 06:10

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 06:10
Hi all,
Thanks for your feedback. I'll put a page about it on my website and see what happens. Does anyone know of a book written about the murders along the Stuart Highway? I remember coming across a reference to it but can't find it again. A good friend of mine, Ronnie Marks, was murdered north of Coober Pedy in 1992, thus my interest. Sounds a macabre subject but a lot of people are interested in it.
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Follow Up By: GypsyOne - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:48

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:48
I'd try Jo at Westprint Maps for that book, if it is out there I am sure she will know about it.
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Follow Up By: mintabiegeoff - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:10

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:10
Thanks Gypsy one,
I will email Jo and ask her.

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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:04

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:04
Geoff, if you want an interesting "Outback Secret" to occupy your time, Google:

Banjawarn station

Aum Sect

You'll be fascinated.

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Follow Up By: mintabiegeoff - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:08

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:08
Your are right! It is a fascinating story. I read the AFP article (link below)

http://www.aic.gov.au/policing/case_studies/afp.html

I will go back and read more later. Thanks for the lead.

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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 13:55

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 13:55
The AFP report makes for fairly dry reading.

When you get to the speculation about the Sect playing with some sort of bomb, then it gets interesting.

There's more to the story than the ranting of conspiracy theorists or X File geeks.

Happy searching.

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Reply By: Squizzy - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:59

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:59
Geoff,

I have checked out your web site, tremendous effort.

Good reading with plenty of history.

Just one point you may consider, The turn off to Alice Well on the Old Ghan Line is not at Rumbalara siding, it is at Bundooma siding. Turn west over the sand dune just on the northern side of the overhead water tank.
This might prevent some poor trekker becoming very frustrated.

And it is worth the diversion with good camping on the river.

cheers,

Geoff.
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Follow Up By: mintabiegeoff - Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 18:35

Thursday, Dec 11, 2008 at 18:35
Geoff,
Thanks for the for the feedback. I'm getting a bit dyslexic in my dotage, will fix the Bundooma turnoff advice.
Thanks
Geoff
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