How to hang the solar hot water bag

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 19:46

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Water is the single most precious commodity you need to carry for your trip. Although heavy, we need to carry it for drinking, cooking and washing.

VicStar

I have read all the archives about various methods of heating water and pop-up showers, etc. But nobody seems to mention how they hang up their hot water bag. Is there such an item as a stand specifically made to take the weight of one of these bags, or are we meant to devise something ourselves/use a tree?

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Reply By: OzTroopy - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 20:16

Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 20:16

A rope from a tree ...

A hook on the annexe pole ( 40mm rhs pole )

A custom made double hook for use in a NPWS drop toilet shelter.

Use a nalley / nylex hobby box as a step ladder. Also used as the wash bucket as I like my 20l rinse time ... lolol

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 22:11

Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 22:11

Thanks OzTroopy
I have not used oned before so was not sure if there was a stand for its use. But as there does not seem to be anything advertised as such, and nobody else can give me a sensible answer, I guess this is not.

I am sorry I asked at all and will probably not bother to come back here again.

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Follow Up By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 22:18

Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 22:18

*I am sorry I asked at all and will probably not bother to come back here again.*

Hiya VicStar

I was only pulling your leg mate,OzTroopy gave you a great answer..Like every forum people like to joke around,no different from being around,joking at a fireside....Lighten up a little and I would hope this would not stop you from coming back asking future questions...

Hav a good Xmas

Cheers

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:13

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:13

Thanks Warfer. I actually appreciate your sense of humor - I was referring more to another response I received which was rather rude and was obviously from someone who knows absolutely everything about everything and thinks everyone else should too. And being my first time on this forum I was quite shocked by the response. But never fear, now that I have gotten over my initial "tanty" I think I shall return, having since received some excellent answers from some much nicer people.

Funny thing about storks - they never do sit still for long :-)

You have a good Xmas too, and a safe and happy New Year!

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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 18:27

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 18:27

Yes sorry you had to go thru that Vicstar. I see the moderators got to it but not before you got a copy. There are a few people who got disgruntled some time back about the rules of the forum and now deliberately try to cause issues. The bloke you refer too had obviously had a few at a xmas party by the look of it. It's a great site for info concerning travelling about this great country of ours so please don't let the one idiot put you off.

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Reply By: Member - Warfer (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 21:03

Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 21:03

I tied mine to a Stork once,Ya know the ones that deliver babies...He only stayed at the right height for about 2 seconds,Never did get it back either !

Cheers

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Reply By: Tonkatuff - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 21:41

Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 21:41

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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 22:28

Saturday, Dec 20, 2008 at 22:28

I often just stick a tent pole out from the roof rack (Secured by bungy cord) and hang it off that. Due to weight of the waterbag, you have to keep the tent pole fairly short lest it bend. The picture is a slightly modified version using a bucket out on the Canning.

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:16

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:16

Thanks Mick O
We aren't roughing it quite so much, but will be using a pop-up shower tent. Since the tent is not strong enough to hold the weight of the bag I assumed that a tree was the best answer. However, if a tree is not available, what is the next best thing? Especially if I don't have a 12volt pump.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 18:32

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 18:32

Have you got a roof rack or roof bars on your vehicle VicStar? If so I'd just carry a 1 metre length of thick dowel (or an old broom handle) and wedge it out from the bars. It should give you enough height to set up your tent although it would be close to the car. Otherwise, you might have to spend that little extra time locating a campsite with a tree.

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Reply By: Maîneÿ (wa) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 01:46

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 01:46

I lay mine on the ground on a bit of silver Ground sheet, it radiates the heat back into the water bag.

Mainey . . .

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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:36

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 09:36

When the water is hot empty it into a bucket and use the usual 12 volt pump with hand sprayer many places sell. This saves lifting and securing a heavy and awkward bag a couple of metres off the ground!

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:17

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:17

Thanks Phil
We don't have a 12volt pump as yet, so it is up to good old gravity to do the job. But after our initial attempt, it may be safe to say that we will probably invest in one, by the looks of things.

cheers!

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Reply By: Madfisher - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 13:40

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 13:40

We have a special shower tent which we hang the solar shower in, and it also keeps cold winds out, if on the move I try and find a suitable tree.
One of the best inventions ever for camping.
Cheers Pete

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:19

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:19

Yours must be a heavy duty tent. We are only using a pop-up one, and it is too light and flimsy to handle the weight of the bag. I guess a tree will do, if I can find one handy, otherwise we may just have to construct something ourselves. But thanks for the response.

Cheers!

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:28

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 14:28

If only two of you only put in 12 litres or so of water should handle that.Friends have a pop up that does the job.
We wet ourselves, turn off , lather up , and rinse off.
Cheers Pete

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Follow Up By: furph - Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:05

Sunday, Dec 21, 2008 at 21:05

For us, the sad thing is that in a 30* day in W.Qld. it never seemed to get quite hot enough.
After a sweaty day working with plenty of dust, a nice hot shower invigorates, gets the xxxxgold palate activated, just what is needed,
Unfortunately, the black plastic shower bag never achieved that end!
c'est la vie.
furph

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 20:27

Monday, Dec 22, 2008 at 20:27

Here's an option for you to try.

You can buy a Coleman battery operated shower for around $30.
It uses four 'D' size batteries and lasts ages.

We use a large rectangular container of around forty litres and add hot water heated in a kettle or two, or the camp fire. With sufficient cold water to give a suitable temperature, you sit the pump in the bucket and stand in it. Then proceed to shower. Most of the water is returned to the bucket and so recirculates.

We get a shower each (two adults) from the one fill.

You can also buy a collapsable 20 litre container (also Coleman brand) that the pump attaches to. You heat the water as before and as you shower, the container collapses as water is pumped out.

We find the container idea however is less "messy" as the water doesn't "flood" the ground and turn it to mud.

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 15:24

Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 15:24

thanks Sand Man. We had been contemplating using a container to stand in anyway, but yours is a good idea.

We will have five people using our shower, so being able to reuse some of that water is a good idea.

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Reply By: JohnnyC - Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 04:03

Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 04:03

I put the solar shower on the floor and connect it to the condensation drain from the aircon, it makes about 10 lt a day,then when I stop, put it on top of the engine, takes about 2 or 3 stubbies to warm up.
You can throw the bag up on the roofrack and let the hose with the shower rose hang over the side, I found hanging it in a tree it wants to spin around and have to chase the water.
You can drink the water from the aircon if you have to.

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Follow Up By: VicStar - Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 15:26

Tuesday, Dec 23, 2008 at 15:26

Wow! what a brilliant idea! If we ever do any long distance travelling I will certainly utilise this one.

With regards to the bag spinning around, I hadn't thought of that either. If we secure it with two ropes it should do the trick.

Cheers!

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