Channel 9 abusing 4wd's again

My brother had one of those holden crosstracks things and the reversing vision is the worst I have ever driven. Almost impossible to reverse down a boat ramp with a small tinny. You have to open the door and lean out to see the trailer wheels.
I also read somewhere that the standard commodore is the worst performer for reverse vision out of all others including most 4WD's.

Angler

Its absolute rubbish that they take up more space on the road.
I have a VX Commodore and a 100 series Cruiser and they are exactly the same length so why would the cruiser take up more room.
As a regular driver of large vehicles I would say that I have much better vision from the Cruiser than the Commodore and as I have a reversing camera it has better rear vision than any car.
Most of the idiots on the program wouldnt have a clue.
Have they ever driven one to see what its like, I doubt it

Going through a school zone I would rather be in the Cruiser or the bus I normally drive than a Corolla or similar.

However in my area a woman in a 4wd is a scary thing They seem to think they own the road around here and tailgate like mad, rarely observe speed limits and most of the vehicles dont seem to have indicators.

Was tailgated by one recently talking on the phone with one had and gesticulating furiously with the other whilst driving less than 2 metres behind me.
She doesnt any more since the cops went round and discussed the situation with her. Great things personalised plates!!!!!

I bought mine to tow a van and as the rig is worth $140,000 I cant afford a 3rd car so they can get st***ed.
As long as you drive correctly and considerately there are no worries at least from my end anyway.

Just the usual quiet season attention grabber IMHO

G'day
If the companys that sell 4WDs and advertise them on those channels that give this screwlose idiot airtime were to withdraw their adverts for a month or 3 whenever this crap is broadcast we should hear less of him

Garry

They must be bad. Pixie Skase said so.
It's the same old journalism rule, 'Why let the facts get in the way of a good story', or 'Will this lift the ratings'.

Yes, 4wds are no good for pedestrians and in our increasingly crowded cities, I can see how the two don't mix very well. Neither do trucks, vans and other vehicles that are even larger.But I agree, it is just a slow news week. The other stories on the show prove that. All recycled, re-hashed 'no-one is working over Christmas so get the file footage out'. As a city based 4wd owner, I am annoyed that the 4wd has been singled out to demonstrate that it is being used for its intended purpose. Many of these arguments are designed to win over popular opinion with the old story about 4wds that never leave the tarmac. Does anyone care if a truck is not carrying a load when it has an accident? Or if a tow-truck isn't towing? Or a delivery van isn't delivering? Or when a Sandman doesn't have a mattress???
No one questions if they are being used for their intended purpose.
There are 4wds in the city that do a lot of off road work. Mine does.That's precisely why I bought it. I tried going on an ungraded Gibb river road with a 2wd and came to grief. I drive my 4wd as little as possible around town but sometimes I have to go through town to get to a destination and some goon thinks I'm just trying to part of toorak tractor set (if only!). I drive in the city(melb) every day and I'm a pedestrian in the city every day. In Little Collins and Little Bourke St hardly any pedestrian obeys the traffic signals, me included. There's bound to be trouble. If we take risks as a pedestrian, we will come off second best with any motorised vehicle. I am sure we will all soon be paying some sort of tax to drive our 4wd though the eastern state's capital cities.Graham (post 341760), I'll let you off the hook with your comment about female 4wders. Because I know you're in Queensland so it could be true ;-)

It started on 3aw this morning before 9am. Seems as though they might be affiliated. Surpisingly thy even had the RACV spokesperson saying the usual garbage about 4wd's being dangerous and not for City use. However when the RACV person was asked about statistics regarding 4wd accidents he did a Bondy and had a momentary loss of facts.

The problem is that people are taught to 'pass' a driving test and not how to drive. 12 Years I've had my 4wd and never received a ticket nor been pulled up by the Police, except at random breath tests.

Silly season is still going!

Ok so their talking 4wdrives not all wheel drives, so if there saying 4wd then they should also be looking at the Jimny's, vitara's, subaru, all have transfer case so classed as a 4wd. I read in the paper yesterday about the wanker scooby doo raving on about 4wd's. This jerk has no idea. We had a VX s pack commodore and currently have prado. The commodore was wider,longer pain in the a r s e to see out the back of and hard to judge when reversing into a parking spot, Yes it used less fuel, big deal !!, If a pedestrian is stupid enough to walk out from a dont walk sign (like they do) dont look when stepping off the curb, or running across the M4 like I have seem them do, it's not going to matter what Im driving, commodore,yaris,patrol,prado at 110klms you dead meat simple as that. This was the w a n k e r that said if you drive a big 4wd you have a little d@ck, so I also drive the wife's yaris so must be depending on what Im driving to how lucky I am. I would love to walk into this bloke on the street. WHG

RACQ/NRMA relesed and report afew months ago saying that 4x4 are safer then standard car and are less likely to have an accident then a holden or a ford, and the comment befor about woman behind the wheel of a 4x4 is true up here, they push in and cut off other 4x4 and smaller cars, i used to see this one shella often when driving my missus car, and she used to tail gate me something stupid and i slammed the brakes on and see had to drive onto the sholder, next time i seen her she stayed back a little bit more.

Simple question, why do people continue to watch, listen to or read trash.

Don't support tabloid trash and its advertisers, simple.

"watch, listen to or read trash"

Sooo true.
I agree 100%- though your description is a tad too polite for me- Ha.


And as for Harold Scruby - why the hell does the moron get air time?
What a drop kick!
Cheers All- Have a happy new year!

Perhaps channel nine should read the proudly displayed article on scrubbys pedestrian council site ... where it gives details of his court case for deliberately attempting to run over a "pedestrian"

The individual is an attention seeking idiot and hypocrite ... More fool the media for supporting him ... proves they are not worthy of attention either.

Hi all,

as indicated before......... another quiet news week!!

What got me the most with the Perth ACA story..........
The GIANT 4WD child killer........... is a CRV... go figure.
Was also shown in the school zone behind a Mitsubishi Magna.


Harold should spend more time getting a real job, or teaching pedestrians how to cross roads. Which is why the Pedestrian Council was formed, saw it on the internet..... so it must be true.

Cheers,
Wayne.

Here is an interesting article about ACA and their own 4WD.
TV Crash

Dave

Trouble is, if the brodcasters don't hear from the Pro lobby (us) the only argument they'll hear is Harold Scrubby's.
They rely on ratings and subsequently advertising to survive and if they get the message that they've upset enough of their audience they will back off. The fact is we are a silent majority - the biggest seller on the market is a 4WD.
Email the broadcasters. If the right people get enough angry emails they will listen.

That clown has too much time on his hands.

May I suggest he does another survey:
All serious injuries and fatalities on country roads.

I bet the figures would suggest that banning all non 4wds from country roads would save a whole lot of lives.

Imagine the guy would be lynched if he were to suggest sedans be banned from leaving the city gates.

Cheers.....Lionel.

The stupid bling-bling in front of the camera on Adelaide's version wound up by stating that one thing smaller cars have over 4WD's is that they cost less to fill up. Duh!

I switched off rather than waste my time watching more crap from Channel 9.

Bill

I wonder if they've run this story with Ms. Grimshaw at the helm in the past?
As a horse tragic, I would expect that she's got a 4wd or two parked at home.
I'm just about to take delivery of a brand new Triton GLX/R dual-cab.Does Mr scooby doo expect a Toyota corolla to tow my caravan around Aust?
He's one of these guys that you would love to come across on the side of a soft edged road not able to get his car out of the slippery stuff on a wet day..............hang on ,that scenario wouldn't happen! He's from the pedestrian council......he would be walking everywhere......wouldn't he?
I live about 200 metres from the local primary school crossing. The stuff I see happen every morning as I walk my son to school is appalling!!! The number of mums dropping kids off from all manner of vehicles in such a way that motorists cannot see the crossing signs is shocking. I've given a few an earful when I cant walk across the crossing as they've parked on the zebra stripes!

I should film first day back next year and send it to the pedestian council and ask them to do something about this situation.(Earn their funding). A blanket ban on 4wd in pedestrian areas wont stop the small 4 pot drivers from doing dumb stuff.

Half the people that say they don't want 4wds on the road probably have one in the garage without realising it.

Don't worry boys, Paris Hilton is back in town and Channel 9 can resume normal transmission!

I remember a few years ago, they had an anti 4wd story on A Current Affair and one thing that they showed was a women double parking a maroon Pajero in a carpark and then going up and questioning her. I used to have to drive a street sweeper up and down the street in Burnley that the channel 9 studeos are on and it's funny, this same Pajero was parked in the staff carpark, this is why I say that they are rehearsing and recording the bad scenes of 4wd's on the road, if they were to properly record everything that they show, they would have to be driving around the road with a camera for a year, remember to, half the time they show American footage. The guy from the pedestrian council even tries to stop trucks, pedestrians wouldn't have shoes and clothes to walk in without trucks, he's a real psycho.

Gday,
I really dont know who or what this Harold Scrubby is as I usually turn off to this sort of crap, but he certainly isnt stupid.
Sounds to me he's got everyones attention just like he planed.
I reckon there was something about this in the NT News (like I said, I skip over $hiit like this usually) I might have to go read it now!!!
Damn that man is good.

LOL

If you haven't seen it, go to www.ninemsn.com.au/aca, go to the videos link and it's in there, called 'The four wheel drive debate'.

Vans (delivery vans, campervans, people-movers) obstruct the view of the road as much as 4WDs.

If I see a vehicle belching out smoke from the exhaust, it's more likely to be an ancient van than a 4WD.

Have you ever once heard of a "ban vans from cities" or "only let those who really need them own vans"

This should make it clear how totally stupid and illogical the anti-4WD arguments are. Thesea rguments are just from people who are envious because they can't afford a 4WD, their wife won't let them buy one, or they're scared they wouldn't know how to drive a 4WD.

Whenever you hear talkback radio waffling the anti-4WD drive argument, ring and say you want to Ban-the-Van. Wait and see how it takes them to realise how stupid the anti-4WD arguments are.

What next ? You won't be able to buy a five-seater Commodore/Falcon if you only have one child, because you are wasting resources ?

its going to be fun to see the reaction of these people when they get to see the coppers in melbourne running around in their hummers!!!!!!!

Their right, I only brought my 4b to look cool. Gunna sell it and buy a barina to tow my 2 ton work trailer and put a set of roof racks on it to carry my tools.
When i get to a building site that is mud or to rough the owner can carry in the tiles/glue/sand and my tool when I have to park on the street....cause Im sure he hates 4bs to.

Just think of the lives i will save....anyone know what a barina is like on the beach?