Solar power

hi,

Im looking to put solar power on my car as im planning a trip around oz. I am totally new to solar and dont know where to start!.
I have a full length roofrack on top of my troopcarrier which i want it to go on. It will be running into a deep cycle battery that is connected to a WAECO CF50AC fridge and afew lights and bits and pieces.
My questions are how much cash will this set me back and are there any mobs in sydney that i can contact to get started?
I live on the northern beaches,

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any info appreciated!!

OLDSALTy

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Reply By: Member - Dick (Int) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:17

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:17
Hi Old Salty

I have two 80 watt panels on the roof rack of my Troopy and they work very well. There are a few pic's in my Profile.

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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:02

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:02
Hi Old Salty
I can help you with Information that may throw some light on your needs and there are a lot of suppliers in Sydney so you can search for the best price to buy.
You can email me at sales@onsitepower.com.au

ian
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Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:12

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 12:12
Hi,

You may find our blog article on Electricity for Camping useful - Electricity for Camping

We use 145W of solar capacity on our Troopy. Works well.

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Reply By: Lucko - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 13:03

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 13:03
Old Salty. I have a 130W panel on the roof of the Patrol charging a 120AH deep cycle battery, via a Morningstar Sunsaver 10A solar controller. This powers my Waeco 50L fridge/freezer (running as a freezer). All works very well.
Looking at installing a Redarc system so that I can power the freezer (from the Patrol battery) while driving, leaving the solar to fully charge the battery. This way I will have a fully charged battery when we camp of an evening.
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 15:45

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 15:45
Dick (Int) - John & Val.

oldsalty, not looking to hijack your post but, Dick & John, how do you get the cable into your vehicle. May also be of interest to oldsalty.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dick (Int) - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 15:58

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 15:58
Hi Wim

We came through the roof just behind the passenger seat, straight to the regulator which is mounted on the Cargo Barrier behind the passenger seat. Used a proper grommet and sealed it well. My Troopy is an ex Ambo and there was already a hole there that only needed to be enlarged.

My setup is,

2 x 80 Watt BP Solar Panels
PL 60 Solar Regulator
2 x 120amp Full River AGM Battery's

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Follow Up By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 22:53

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 22:53
This is the Solar panel end of the cable connector I use to plug into a roof connector that allows the cable to run between the roof panel and the lining to the Aux battery system, so it's never seen.

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:25

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:25
Wim,

My connection point is similar to Dick's, I come through the skin above and behind the passenger side door. Like Dick's, our Troopy had a previous life, as a police vehicle in our case, and already had a hole there. I use Canon style audio plugs and sockets which use a simple system to lock together, and are available with various numbers of pins, each pin rated at 6 or 10 amps. Image Could Not Be Found


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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 17:37

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 17:37
You need to understand how expensive solar is - to get enough solar panels that put in bright sunshine would put out as much current as a small Alternator does, you'd have to spend $10,000 (yes, that's the correct number of zeros).
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Follow Up By: Rolly - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 18:37

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 18:37
My alternator only operates for a couple of hours a week and will not put out more than 13volts once the cranking battery is up to charge.
I need at least 14.5 volts to fully charge a deep cycle battery.
The Solar panels, on the other hand, when coupled with the appropriate controller/charger, provide the proper charging voltages at an average of about 6amps over a period of 7-9 hours, depending on the season, geographic location and orientation of the panels.
It's all a matter of "Horses for Courses".

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Follow Up By: Rolly - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 18:41

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 18:41
Forgot: that's for two 64W (nominal) amorphous panels @ ±$660 each and a $120 controller = $1440
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:43

Tuesday, Feb 10, 2009 at 07:43
Rolly's comments on voltages are spot on. The voltage reaching the auxilliary batteries from the alternator isn't high enough to fully charge them. The panels' higher output voltage does the job. One option is to spend a few hundred dollars on a dc-dc charger to provide that higher voltage from the alternator. I prefer the solar approach. As Rolly says - "Horses for Courses"

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Reply By: Maîneÿ (wa) has - Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 23:38

Monday, Feb 09, 2009 at 23:38
Remember - Quality costs money

# Steca 10A regulator ~$180 Steca link:

# Sharp panel 123 watt ~$1,100
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