Bridgestone D693 for Nissan X-Trail?

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 15:33
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Hi all,

Thanks to my last post I think a set of A/T tyres are in order for my trip to Innamincka in April. Thanks for the feedback.

Now some help with the choice of tyre please!

Looks like best bang for buck for the tyre size I need are the Bridgestone D693. The tyre size of the Nissan is 215/65/R16.

I was looking at the D694, but it looks they don't make them in the correct size.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the D693? Anyone got a set that have done a similar trip? Anyone got a set on an X-trail? Strangely the guy from Bridgestone said they wern't really suitable for off road in that size - strange!

Other research has thrown up that there are no Coopers in the right size either.
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 16:04

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 16:04
I run 693s on my 100TD and my Bushtracker van. I bought them after getting sick of loosing lugs on my Cooper ATs.

I asked mining guys in Kununurra and another in Broome what the locals liked - both suggested 693s.

I am happy with them.

Willie
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Reply By: DaveO*ST-R - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:11

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:11
I have D693's on my 06 ST-R Navara - 265/70R/16 - the original tyres when I bought the vehicle. They have done 26,000 and I would say they are wearing just OK. I think if I get 50,000 out of them, I will be very lucky. (probably 40,000 tops) I have read where some people swear by them and get 80 odd thousand etc, but not mine. I did the Simpson last year and staked the left rear on gibber rock on the Birdsville Track, about 80k before Birdsville. I could stick my finger right through the hole in the sidewall. I was the only one in the group to do a tyre, but I put it down to bad luck and not so much a fault with the tyre. I try to run the "correct" pressures according to the conditions. Found them very good on sand, ordinary in mud, but very quiet on road. In my circumstances, I won't be putting them back on when it comes time to replace them.

Cheers,

Dave
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Follow Up By: long haired nomad - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:33

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 17:33
I use 31x10.5x15 on my hilux for the past 15 years, and ive never gotten less than 100,000km from a set. Try a set of LT tyres instead of the 265/70R's.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Sydney. - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:04

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:04
Yeh Davo, You can't blame a staked sidewall on the tyre .
Willie
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Follow Up By: DaveO*ST-R - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:38

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:38
Yep, fair enough. Thanks guys. Will have a look at the LT's as well.
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:15

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:15
AussieScotts

Are you sure your Xtrail has 16" wheels? Ours has 15" and it is a very difficult size to find in the 215's
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:40

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:40
Ti Mags are16"; ST steels are 15"
Both are oddball sizes.
Need to upsize to 215/75R15 or 215/70R16 to get good tyres.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:51

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:51
Ah...The Xtrail guru is on the ball :-) Thanks for that...was unaware
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:30

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 19:30
I also run D693's on the Jack.
I preferred the tread pattern to the 694.

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Reply By: Member - Charlie M (SA) - Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 20:15

Thursday, Mar 19, 2009 at 20:15
Just check on the 215/65R16 D693 I thing you will find it is light truck construction and R rated which is not suitable for passenger style vehicle that can not have LESS than S rated even if it is H rated vehicle
Cheers
Chass
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:43

Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:43
Chass,
In that size the 693 are not "LT" construction according to the Bridgestone website.
State laws vary as far as speed ratings go. In SA and many other states the speed rating on the vehicle placard is irrelevant.
From memory, our law is that it must be at least N (140kph) which is less than the 170 kph R rating carried by the 693 in that size.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:52

Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:52
I believe the Xtrail fits into teh 4wd category below:
These are the rules on speed rating for most states, which I think are still current:
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For vehicles with a GVM of 4.5 tonne or less with four or more wheels, the original speed
rating of the tyre casing must be at least the lesser of:
* 140km/h for a passenger car with special features for off-road use such as 4WD,
* 180km/h for any other passenger car,
* 120km/h for any other motor vehicle not described above,
* the vehicle's top speed.
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Follow Up By: Member - Charlie M (SA) - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 19:00

Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 19:00
Hi Phil G
My understanding is the xtrail is a AWD not 4WD as it does not have transfer box and is classed as passenger not 4wd and passenger cars can not have less than S rated.
Listed in njoy book as 5door wagon, under Nissan 4x4 soft offroader recreational vehicle
You are right in others can have not less than L rated tyres providing load index is not less than placard.

Navara and Patrols come under 4x4 Recreational and Commercial section of same book.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:03

Friday, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:03
Chass,
#1 The Xtrail is not an AWD. You get 3 choices: 2wd, On-demand 4wd and Locked 4wd.
#2 The Xtrail has a transfer case. I know because I cnaged the oil in two of them last month. It doesn't have low range but the transfer case is there to switch between 2wd and 4wd.
#3 Read the rules I pasted above - Xtrail fits into "a passenger car with special features for off-road use such as 4wd". The words "off-road use" are critical here - they distinguish the Xtrail from as a R33 Skyline which has a similar transmission.
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