Simpson Desert.lpg ,petrol.

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Hi I have a 80series Toyota on LPG (95lte)/Petrol(95lte) could I get from Birdsville to Oodnadatta on this amount of fuel??? Thanks.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 18:21

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 18:21


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Reply By: Cougar Tag-Along-Tours Pty. Ltd. - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 18:53

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 18:53
yes it should be enough but remember there is no LPG at birdsville or oodnatta
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 19:09

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 19:09
Most probably telling you how to suck eggs but LPG is notorious for only giving half a tank from empty. Remember to fill at the coldest time as possible. My work 380 Magna is duel fuel and a fortnight ago in the morning I squeezed nearly 60L in. On Friday arvo it was 35deg and could only get 25L in. Both days from similar points towards empty.

I'd work on your worst case scenario for both being a lot more conservative with the gas. Bit hard carrying a spare Jerry can of gas. If you're travelling with a group see if they can carry some jerry's for you?
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Reply By: Member - Rob S (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 19:46

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 19:46
My 80 Series used 160L ulp from Mt Dare to Birdsville via Knolls track,Lone Gum , French line 560 klm total.

Total 195 litres ulp carried plus 95 litres usable lpg.
At the time Eyre creek was looking like an extra 60k detour, but was ok when we got there.
or if it rains you might have to turn back.

I carried 5 extra jerry cans, 3 empty to Mt Dare 2 full.Filled 3 jerry's at Mt Dare
If you look at my profile there a pics of the spare fuel carrier on the back and two on the roof and one inside.
Didn't take long to empty the jerry's on the roof first.
What i do when travelling remote places is to keep the LPG
as a reserve only
Have a look at trek notes fuel lots of good fuel used info, thats what i used to plan fuel for my trip.Site Link
The V6 Pathfinder that came with us was not much better on fuel either it was an auto and he was traveling very light one person, Compared to me with 3 on board with extra food and gear and 60 litres of water.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 22:12

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 22:12
Not enough fuel.
I've travelled with 80series petrol dual fuel vehicles and they usually carry an additional 3 or 4 jerries for Birdsville to Oodnadatta.
Last LPG is Leigh Creek, and they often run out, so phone up beforehand. I think Cooper Pedy is nearest LPG on the west side.
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Follow Up By: Rossc0 - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 23:58

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 23:58
Last LPG is Lyndhurst and usually about 10cpl cheaper than Leigh Creek.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:33

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:33
Thats good to know Ross. I've not noticed it there when we've driven past and the LPGAustralia site doesn't list it, so I'm guessing they installed it recently. Anyway, thats an extra 38km!
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Follow Up By: Rossc0 - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:12

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:12
Was there last August when we went through.

It's on the hema map from memory, don't have them here so would have to check.

The LPGAustralia site does not list every location have found several which are not on there over the years.

Maybe something for the ExplorOz crew to consider listing fuel types (ulp/pulp/diesel/lpg) available in Places rather than just fuel available.

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Reply By: Blaze (Berri) - Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 22:26

Sunday, Mar 29, 2009 at 22:26

Question is a bit vague, depends on route you take, you can do an extra 200k's just doing different tracks out there if not doing shortest trip, also depends on what load your carrying and if towing or not.

I have a dual fuel V6 Mitsi, Range out there with only the vehicle is over 800k's in sand hills. That is with 130ltrs ULP and 50ltrs LPG, this is using 24ltrs per hundred after Purnie if heading East, better before this.

Last trip usage was 111ltrs, as this was 3 weeks after rain, sand firmer.

If its just the vehicle alone, (no Trailer) I believe you should have enough.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:54

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:54
Should be plenty 2517 , you don't say much about car so I presume worse case i.e. its an auto.

Planning that has helped us is to use the LPG first out of Birdsville and you should get 1/2 way on gas.

This you can tell, which allows plenty of fuel to turn around if something goes wrong.

The second half of trip is easier and the run into Dalhousie is very easy these days.

If your just a little short on fuel , you finish via Mt dare.

In worse case if you run out 150km from the end you will still be in Dalhousie and no one will let you starve there.

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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 08:38

Monday, Mar 30, 2009 at 08:38
2517, you haven't said when you are travelling - time of year makes a difference as well.
If expecting to cross the Simpson in the next few weeks you will need to take extra fuel to enable you to exit the way you went in due to the massive flooding in Eyre Creek - approximately 30 klms wide and no way around at all.
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