Im having Rego Issues - NEEEEEED advice please (trailer)

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 10:54
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Greetings guys - here is the story

A few years back i purchased a Trailer that i was going to use to tow all my stuff to QLD ( behind my 4bie) from NSW - as i was going to live there permanently. Ii was going to wait till i got up there ( from NSW) before i transfer and re register-(QLD)

Now i ended up staying in Sydney - The trailer which i want to use for camping and transporting my trail bikes around has been sitting in the vacant block of land next door for about 3 years and i never got around to transferring it.. NOW i want to/ or rather on sell the trailer to the misses ...( have to many things in my name )

For the life of me i can not find the paper work from the guy i bought it from back in 2006 - cant remember the name or address. Went to the RTA in the hope he filled out the "Notice of disposal" and posted it in ----- he didn't .... now if this was a cheap trailer i would bin it and buy another - but this is a duel axel fully enclosed trailer about 16 feet long and worth $3500 +

Spoke to the people at the RTA - and as usual they are of no use - they said i have to give them the guys details / paper work before they can do anything - I may go back on monday and speek to a manager as the staff seam clueless as usual


do you guys have any suggestions ?


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Reply By: Sir SOOTY Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 10:58

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 10:58
Have you treied to REV's search either the old Rego number or the Vin number. It might give you some clues??


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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:01

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:01
Sure have --- comes up saying -- RTA details Match - there are no Encumbrances on this vehicle

thats all it says ---


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Follow Up By: Sir SOOTY Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:06

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:06
I would be talking to an RTA manager then. They should at least be able to contact the old owner on your behalf.

If not do a Stat Dec stating that you have misplaced the transfer papers and see if they will accept that, especially since the trailer has not been registered for 3 years.

Good Luck

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Reply By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:03

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:03
Don't know how it works over there but could you hand in the old plates and just reregister it.

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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:09

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:09
Yep, I'd start from scratch, bodgy up a receipt & blue slip it!

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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:10

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:10
I was thinking that -- but for that i would need the guys name and address --- that i simply dont have ....


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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:07

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:07
Maybe don't 'transfer' it - just do it as a new registration - ie: Blue Slip. What condition is it in - will it get past inspection without any issues?
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:12

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:12
I will be doing some work on it this weekend -- its in good nick its mostly aluminium with exception of the chassis .....

prob is it does have the Trailer number welded onto ( or vin)

how would i go about starting from scratch? there are no manufacturer details on the trailer

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Follow Up By: Sir SOOTY Kev & Darkie - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:22

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:22
Register it as a home made trailer. Therefore no chassis number as such


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Follow Up By: Member - William H (WA) - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:23

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:23
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just call it "Home made" look for all numbers on the trailer, and be up front with them,have a copy of the revs certificate, to show to them.

Cheers for now...Willian H...Bunbury...WA.
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:24

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:24
thanks William - i will look into that now .......

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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:21

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:21
I think I would start from scratch again...get it inspected, you will
also need a weight certificate. Call it home made if no manufacturers details are available. I doubt the RTA will be interested in chasing a transfer that should have been made within one month of purchase, on a trailer unregistered for 3 years. Start again would be my tip.....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:23

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:23
Looks Like this is what i may have to do - does this still fall under the BLueslip check - or is this something that MUST be taken to RTA inspection ?

Will get it weighed at local weigh station - the trailer has 2 tonne GVM
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:46

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:46
As far as I know any inspection station can do the job for you...
...oldbaz.


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Reply By: Horacehighroller - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:44

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:44
If you sell it to your wife now while it is unregistered (and without plates) you can give her a receipt.

She (of course) would have checked the RTA to ensure it is not stolen or encumbered, but will have been unable to determine original registered owner(as she bought it from you).

She can then present for re-registration.

Blue Slip. wighbridge docket and receipt should be all the paperwork she requires.

Voila!!


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Follow Up By: Richard W (NSW) - Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 05:59

Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 05:59
This may work OK.
I bought a camper trailer in Qld and had to have it blue slipped in NSW. Got the blue slip done OK.
Also needed to prove ownership to the RTA which was OK as I had a bill of sale even though it was only hand written.
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Reply By: aroundwego - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 13:30

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 13:30
For the life of me, after reading your post I still cant workout why you post that it is the RTA staff that

"seam clueless as usual"

suppose its easy to blame others
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 15:48

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 15:48
WHY would i say RTA staff clueless as usual ---

I had a motorcycle stolen and it was Just re registered a few weeks before so i had the full 12 months rego on the bike --

I went to RTA to ask to cash in the rego - Was told they have to have the number plate

I tell them the number plate was stolen with the bike -- i get a blank look - she says but you will have to bring the number plate in so i can cancel your registration ....

i explain that the number plate was stolen with the bike - therefore i can not bring it in ...... was told the same thing again .....

Ask to see on duty manager ---

Told HIm the story --- he repeated what she told me about having to bring in the plates ---- i repeated that the plates were stolen and attached to the stolen bike -- therefore i dont have them ...

told me that he can not cancel without the plates...... I gave up


This is just ONE of the many times i have not got any joy from the RTA - this is why i say "Clueless as usual"


Today no exception ....... went in - pressed registration transactions --- waited 20 min -- get called up --- get told i have to go back out and press the ALL OTHER TRANSACTIONS button as she is only doing quick rego transactions ..

I get the ticket for " ALL other transactions " wait another 20 min -- guess what --- get called up to the same attendant at the counter .......

should i tell you more ?????


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Reply By: aroundwego - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 16:51

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 16:51
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/cancelyourrego.html
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 17:02

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 17:02
Ozboc,

I don't know where you are but you say Sydney so I assume this is possible.

Try a different motoregistry!!!!

Years ago I had issues with the local Motorregistry, funnily it was about regisetering a trailer. I gave up and walked out in disgust.

I drove 2 suburbs to another office and it was all sorted in about 30 min.

Go in fresh, be honest and up front and ask for help rather than telling them what you think should happen. It worked for me.


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Reply By: RV Powerstream P/L - Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 18:33

Saturday, Apr 04, 2009 at 18:33
The RTA staff do not get paid to sort out your problem that should have been done three years ago so why blame them because you did not follow up.

If you trailer is under 2000GVM it can be blue sliiped as a Home Build as suggested already.

The Blue slip garage will need a weighbridge tare weight and they can issue you with a new number for the trailer which you can weld onto the chassis and give you an ID Plate and then register it.

If its GVM is over 2000KG you need a heavy vehicle 1st Rego slip form a heavy vehicle rego checker.
The same conditions apply as above.
If you are confident thast the trailer is legal and complies then grind off the existing ID Numbers and you should not have a problem.

I have done exactly the above process with a 3000GVM trailer that I built myself and there was no problems for me in NSW.

Now both you your wife and the RTA workers can rest easy as it will make the job easy for all as its a straight forward process and no one has to think outside the square.

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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 06:33

Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 06:33
thanks for your input - i think i will be going with this option ... :)


and thanks to all the replied --- will post a follow up when/ If it all works


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Reply By: Graham & Lynne - Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 19:45

Sunday, Apr 05, 2009 at 19:45
Ozboc
I do Blue slips
DONOT grind old number off you are making it look like its stolen.
Weight trailer
Blue slip it call it home made use original VIN /trailer # number .If Chassis starts with TR means it has been already issued by RTA.
If it is 17 characters long is VIN for trailer built after 1989.

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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:22

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:22
GDay Graham , thanks for your suggestion - the numbers on the trailer , that being the only identifier is a 6 number long welded number starting with 81

will do as you have suggested - if asked by RTA or blueslip suplier about the previous owner ( As this number is in the system) what should i say ?>

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Follow Up By: Graham & Lynne - Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 07:09

Monday, Apr 06, 2009 at 07:09
81 means it was registered in 1981
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