4WD suggestions
Submitted: Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:34
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chris123
Hi,
I need to get a newer car
Can't really afford a patrol or landcruiser for the amount of kms I'm after, don't really need a large 4WD either, trying to convince the wife to get a slightly smaller one
What decent cars are out their that are the next size down from a patrol?
Reply By: tazbaz - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:57
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:57
Hard to go past the Kia Sorento for reliability, price, towing and 4WD ability.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:40
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:40
Kia, i'd never have picked that
will have to check it out
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Reply By: tonbon - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:13
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:13
Hi Chris, i suppose it depends on what you want to use it for. I recently purchased an Isuzu D-Max Dual Cab 3.0 Lt Turbo Intercooled and i must say, it is a most capable 4wd.
I put it through its paces at
Appin state forest tracks and was surprised at how easily it handled some very rough terrain with large gradients, technical rocky areas and decent
water crossings (it was a rainy miserable day in
Sydney and didnt look like getting stuck once).
Fuel usage,
well, my previous vehicle was a non-turbo 2Lt Subaru Impreza and currently, with same driving habits (to and from work and weekend run arounds) i am using 1 litre per 100 Km less in the D-Max.
It is suprisingly comfortable given it is a style side ute with no load at the moment, better than i thought it would be. It is strong and rugged and the interior isnt flashy but has all the necesseties without being flashy.
Overall, i am completely happy with my purchase and i am looking forward to giving it a run through
the desert next year as
well as numerous day and weekend trips. Good Luck.
P.S. I am in no way associated with any vehicle manufacturer or seller, simply a very happy consumer.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:43
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:43
it must be a wagon and i havnt done any actual 4wding so far so dont think i'll be doing much in the future
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:01
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:01
Hi Chris123,
Can you be more specific about what use you hope to make of the vehicle? You say you want a 4wd but dont want to use it as a 4wd???
With some 4wd training, 4wd opens up a range of interesting and adventurous travel possibilities - maye only a tiny fraction of any journey might require 4wd if only for safety reasons, but its that fraction that can make the difference between getting to a great spot or not.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:39
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:39
thats right, the other half wants (insists/will pay for) a 4wd but we dont 4wd, so basically need a 4wd and that inbetween an uber4wd and a car that drives all 4wheels
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Follow Up By: Tenpounder - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:36
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:36
Hi there. I suggest you spend some time deciding:
How much you want to spend;
How big a vehicle you want;
What sort of ride comfort you want (the more 'uber' the worse the ride, generally);
Whether you need low range, or just 4WD
As you have said so far, you don't want a uber 4WD, you don't want a AWD, and you do want a wagon. But that still leaves 90% of the product range to choose from!
Perhaps a Suzuki Vitara? or a Pajero/Prado? or a Jeep Cherokee? Subaru Outback?
I am sure people will be able to help more once you have clarified some of these questions.
Chris (SA)
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Follow Up By: tonbon - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:39
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:39
im with tenpounder. Sounds like a Subaru Forrester or Outback would be the go.
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Reply By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:22
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:22
Pajero ;-)
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:42
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:42
yeah thats already on my list of cars to test drive
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Reply By: Maîneÿ . . .- Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:17
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:17
Test-drive a Ssangyong diesel 4x4 for a comparison with your selected choice
(no affiliation etc etc)
Maîneÿ . . .
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:52
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 10:52
sounds expensive to maintain....
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Reply By: Gronk - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:26
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:26
If you want a mid size 4x4 that drives nice on the road, goes
well, is good on juice, almost whisper quiet compared to some, and is surprisingly good offroad, then I'll agree with Tazbaz above....the Kia
Sorrento..
Don't own one, but have driven my sons one ( diesel ) and unless you need the outright 4wd ability and size of the Toyo, Nissans and Pajeros, then do yourself a favour and at least test drive one !!
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Reply By: chisel - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:34
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:34
If you aren't actually wanting to go 4wd-ing and don't need size, then choose an AWD (or small 4wd) like a RAV4, kluger, forester, captiva, grand vitara. There are many to choose from.
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Reply By: Shaker - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:53
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:53
An idea of your budget would help, what State are you in?
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:04
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:04
Looking to spend $20k max
low kms would be a bonus e.g. 100k
forester and sorento are out, pick something else
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:15
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:15
early 2000 models
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:39
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:39
melbourne
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 15:48
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 15:48
Hyundai Terracan CRDI.
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Reply By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:38
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:38
anything i should stay away from?
is pathfinder anygoood?
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Follow Up By: chisel - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 15:59
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 15:59
Pathfinders (older R50) and challengers are fine. I had a pathy - good medium size, not too big/too small.
A little thirsty perhaps. Drives like a car.
Check pcoa.org forums if you want heaps of info on pathfinders.
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Reply By: Madfisher - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:13
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:13
The best value for money 2nd hand 4wd are Jackaroos in petrol only. We brought an immaculate 03 Nullarbor with lots of extras with 76000ks for $14000. We then put a ecb bullbar , spotties and uhf which brought it up to $16500. Son brought and 02 se with same bullbar and aircraft landing lights, but with more ks for $11500.This one also had a service history and had never been 4wdriving. The manuals are quite good on fuel( down to 11.5/100) the autos use about 2/100 more. They have very robust drivelines eg they are some older 3.2s arround with 400000ks and apart from timing belts have not been touched. The only common issues I can find are the
check engine light being on which is usually the iac motor, maf or occassionally the inlet manifold gasket. This last problem was more common on 98 s and 99 models. They where built in Japan by truck manufacter Isuzu, not Holden.
While they are no longer built I have never heard of spares being an issue.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: disco driver - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:15
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:15
Chris 123,
Without meaning to sound derogatory, the person having to make a decision is you.
Posters on this or any other
forum will offer opinions based on their experience or biased toward what they think may suit your needs.
There are so many options out there that it is very difficult to make a choice.
ALL the common vehicles are generally suitable for your purposes but in the end it comes down to you and perhaps your "significant other"
Hereis a list of possibly suitable vehicles.
Pajero, Prado, Pathfinder, Hyundai Terracan, Kia Sorento, RAV4, Subaru Forester, Subaru Outback, Holden Captiva, Jeep, Landrover Discovery & Freelander, All Dualcabs with canopy, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Escape, Mazda Tribune, Suzuki grand Virara, VW Toureg, Porsche Cayenne, (Ok these 2 may be out of your price range) Nissan Xtrail, Mitsubishi Outlander and so on.
Any one of these may
well be the vehicle you want, but only you can make your decision, based on what suits your needs.
Hope this helps
Disco.
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Follow Up By: chris123 - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:26
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 14:26
my significant other significantly dis-likes certain cars in that list
will go down to car city and
test drive a variety of these cars, see what we think
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Reply By: Member - John D, Wandong (Vic) - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 17:13
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 17:13
Chris, browse through the website below just to get an idea of a suitable car, for the price you are looking for, I don't think you have specified whether you want a petrol or diesel vehicle, this could make a difference also.
http://www.discountusedcars.com.au/
Cheers,
John
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Reply By: Kirk and Jeanette - Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 17:18
Monday, Jun 01, 2009 at 17:18
As mentioned just once above the Hyundai is an excellent vehicle. I drive a patrol but have heard many very good reports from people I know driving Hyundias who love them. The fuel economy when towing on the diesel model is excellent.
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