black wolf tent question

Do a search - this has been discussed before.
We got a little water in through a couple of seams near the top (not the side windows) when we had rain without the fly on. Not too bad but I'm inclined to always use the fly now. I have a 300 lite plus - others might be different, especially if canvas.

I have a Black Wolf tent, but always have the fly on, so can't answer your direct question.

It takes literally seconds to throw the fly over and click it into 4 points, so I don't think you would be saving that much time by leaving it off. I rarely tie the fly down with the ropes provided - perhaps that is what you think might take some time.

The whole tent is extremely easy to erect and the saving of 10 seconds in the whole scheme of things will not make any difference.

Sue

yep good point. You have the canvas one? Happy with it?

I have the Polyester fabric as it is not canvas, I leave the fly on all the time even when packed back in the bag, on putting up I only have to clip in the 4 clips by the Poles.

A bit more about tents
http://www.hr4wdclubsa.org.au/Images_etc/Tent.pdf

Gidday

Another vote for the Turbo tent. I have been lucky with mine in that I have only ever camped in light drizzle but I have no need to doubt that it won't measure up in rougher conditions ... but don't tell people with Freedom tents that you have a Black Wolf.


This is a true story I have a witness

I was in Melbourne last week on holiday and found myself wandering past the Freedom shop on I think Elizabeth street on the outskirts of the city. Being a camping shop nut and knowing how well regarded the Freedom name was I went in for a look. A man came up, i explained I was a tourist from WA and was just wanting to look at the famous Freedom shop. He told me that there was only one decent camp shop in Perth and that was the bloke who sold his stuff (in Balcatta I think) and I really should go there etc.

It was getting a bit tiresome so in a bid to cut him off I said I already had a tent. What type? Black Wolf. Why did you buy that the are rubbish. Why didnt you buy a canvas tent? Well I found them a bit expensive, I know yours are good but I really couldn't afford one.

Well away he went, Black Wolf are crap made in china the zips are no good you will be lucky to get two years out of it I know they are easy to take up abnd put down but I have customers coming in all the time with problems they are having with with that rubbish.

I initially thought this was some kind of joke but he went on and when I walked out of the shop he was still going.


I have heard that freedom make excellent tents and in different circumstances might have considered them, but now I have met that bloke I have to wonder. There are ways of dealing with people who have bought a competitor's product but I wouldn't have thought that was one of them

Cheers

Rocco

Gidday again

Sorry ... i didnt really make my point there about the fly ... too busy reliving and laughing about the price of Freedom ...

I wouldn't use the tent without the fly unless there was 100 percent guarantee it wasnt going to rain. Like others say, it only takes a little while to put on.

Cheers

Rocco

thanks for that. Looks good so will try and find a place in Adelaide which has the room to display these. Lots of suppliers in Adelaide but only a few with a large enough floor space to put up tents.

Yep, ditto all that. Our Turbo 240 is great, never a leak except where i nicked the floor. I don't leave the fly on when packing away and it is so easy to put on when erecting the tent. Good product, forget that rubbish the salesman told you. Ours has already done 3 years and is as good as new.

We had one of the original Black Wolf Turbo tents (the ones that have fabric like canvas, not the never more poly ones) and loved it. It was purchased second hand, but had hardly been used. We changed that with 2 years worth of use (at least twice a month).

The fly is meant to be removed when packing up, but we found that by unclipping 2 corners that it could be folded up easily with the fly in place. That made setting up and packing up even easier than it already was! The only issue that caused however was condensation between the fly and tent, so we had to be sure to take the fly off and dry the tent out if there was condensation.

As for water proof, we had ours in some hugh rains and the only time it leaked was through the floor. When we got home and went over it with a torch, we found some little holes and taped them up, after that fine. Yes, we were probably a bit slack and were not careful enough with clearing the ground before we put down the ground sheet. We never, ever had any leaks from anywhere.

The tent has now been sold to friends (now its third owners), as we have graduated to a rooftop tent!

On the negarive side, the initial owner of our Black Wolfe bought a newer one, with the extension, and ended up taking it back. They were very disappointed in the quality of finish in comparison to the original canvas like one. The second drawback is that they are bulky to carry, and really don't fold up small at all! LOL, but everything has a negative!!

Jo

thanks everyone for the very informative feedback. I will go down to Snowys and have a look. measuring it out with a tape measure last night and it's surprising how large the 240 is but seeing the 240 and 300 erected and packed up will be very useful.

Again thanks and yet again this forum has shown how useful this site is for everyone :)

Cheers,

Hi


We have just got home from a six weeks trip including the Goog Track and the Simpson Desert using our Black wolf, had no trouble at all but always put the fly on, had only a few showers and it showed no sign of any leaks. We used an old carpet square on the floor which protected the flooring and kept it a bit warmer as the weather was cool. We are both 60 plus and found it very easy and quick to assemble. Regards Kay