Want to buy a new 4X4 FORD or HOLDERN

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 20:49
ThreadID: 70472 Views:2737 Replies:7 FollowUps:11
This Thread has been Archived
For the first time I am buying a new 4X4, Can anybody tell me anything bad about the Ford Ranger or the Holden Rodeo, As after 2 weeks reading up on all the 2009 4X4's it seems these two are very close and the pick of the bunch, For a twin Cab 4X4 around the $40,000 range.
Back Expand Un-Read 0 Moderator

Reply By: On Patrol & TONI - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:02

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:02
briggspc

Why limit your search to just those two, Overlander did a dual cab comparison in their May 09 issue, and the Triton was a serious contender as was the Navara & Toyota hi lux also the D max. Holden dont do the Rodeo any more they now sell the Colorado (D max with a Holden badge) just as the Ranger is a Mazda with a Ford badge.

Get hold of the Overlander mag article and have a look at the field.
Cheers Colin.
AnswerID: 373520

Follow Up By: briggspc - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:22

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:22
Thanks for that Colin, will try and get a copy, have ruled out the Navara $50,000 plus and they are having trouble blowing motors it seems, the Hi lux seems to dear as well, yes the D-Max, Ranger, seem close to what I want as far as what you can pull with them, will check out Triton not sure about that one.

Thanks Peter
0
FollowupID: 640650

Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 22:44

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 22:44
Colin,

The Colorado is a D-Max with a Holden badge???
Interesting concept as the Colorado is made at the GM plant in Rayong, Thailand.

Maybe the D-Max is a GM vehicle with an Isuzu badge:-)

Although GM and Isuzu don't have close ties any more, I suspect there is still "colusion" between them.

Bill.

Bill


I'm diagonally parked in a parallel Universe!

Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 640664

Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:07

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:07
Yes ,Holden and Isuzu have parted ways , but the Colorado and Isuzu D-Max are essentially 1 and the same vehicle except that the holden badge costs you more to purchase whereas the Isuzu D-Max has established itself as the biggest selling utillity vehicle in SE Asia
0
FollowupID: 640696

Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 21:30

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 21:30
"Holden badge costs you more to purchase"
Not so!
I received a 25% discount on the purchase price of the Colorado I have just bought.
(I don't work there anymore, but my wife does)

The decision was easy for me:-)))

So I now own one of the biggest selling utility vehicle in SE Asia, but with an easily recognisable Holden badge on it.

Love it!


Bill


I'm diagonally parked in a parallel Universe!

Member
My Profile  My Blog  My Position  Send Message

0
FollowupID: 640811

Reply By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:16

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:16
My business vehicle is a Ford Courier, forerunner to the Ranger. I bought it because I got an exceptional deal on it.

It's OK but no gem. A few problems, mainly driveline related. All fixed under warranty but it doesn't inspire enough confidence to tackle a severe outback adventure in it. 4wd has stopped working just this week. Useless knob on the console, give me an extra gearstick any day

Jim.

.
AnswerID: 373525

Follow Up By: briggspc - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:31

Tuesday, Jul 07, 2009 at 21:31
Thanks for that Jim all taken on board, was looking at Nissan and Toyota 4.2 but changed my mind as I think fuel is not going to get any cheaper and plan on doing some big miles.

Peter
0
FollowupID: 640653

Follow Up By: tim_c - Thursday, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:58

Thursday, Jul 09, 2009 at 12:58
I agree Jim - is it really that difficult to shift a lever? They were far more reliable, and you always knew when it was in 4WD or not!
0
FollowupID: 640888

Reply By: Blaze (Berri) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 00:02

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 00:02
Brigg,

I would have reall close look at the Triton, I know people will say I'm biased and this may be so but the Triton diesel is the best all round engine plant you can get in any of these utes. I have to admit I hated the shape but that has grown on me, so take one for a spin.

Cheers



AnswerID: 373543

Follow Up By: briggspc - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 18:49

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 18:49
Thanks for that have checked that model out today, sorry the wife does not like the look.
0
FollowupID: 640773

Reply By: Member - DW (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:27

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:27
Have a look at ThreadID: 70478 in relation to the Colorado (Holden Rodeo). This is not an isolated occurrence.
The Ford Ranger and Mazda BT50 are the same vehicles and seem to be getting a good run especially as a lot of companies are running them. This is due to their reliability and of course their more than competitive price compared to other makes. They are also more than capable of towing 3000 kg.
Cheers
DW
AnswerID: 373548

Follow Up By: briggspc - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 18:56

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 18:56
Thanks DW, have been reading that thread, It maybe a one off.
0
FollowupID: 640775

Reply By: landed eagle - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 06:29

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 06:29
I drove all the contenders before buying the Triton GLX/R TD.If you are going to have people in the back seat a lot,the Triton is armchair-like,and has a large rear door to get in through.All the others were like benchseats according to my backseat drivers....12-14 yrs.
Load carrying wasn't my prime reason for purchase,comfort was.It's still handy having a ute tray if needed though.
I tow a Jayco Expanda Outback with mine and hardly know it's on the back.
AnswerID: 373549

Follow Up By: briggspc - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 18:59

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 18:59
Thanks for that info, we both looked at the Triton to-day and the boss does not like the look of it, but it was nice to sit in.
0
FollowupID: 640776

Reply By: rocco2010 - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:26

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:26
Gidday

Just passed 8000km on a Ranger extra cab and have no issues. Motor has freed up nicely and have even beaten 8l/100km on a few weekends away. Suburban running around 8.5l/100km. I am not into serious off-road but others say they are capable for what they are.

When I was shopping around it was value for money that clinched the deal. Hi-lux too dear, Navara too doubtful, Rodeo/Colorado/Isuzu/Triton not available in spec required.

That left Mazda/Ford twins and the Mazda dealer didn't really want to know.

I have no regrets, though it isn't the best looking thing around.

Cheers


Rocco
AnswerID: 373576

Follow Up By: briggspc - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 19:09

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 19:09
Thanks Rocco, looked at a Ranger Wildtrak to-day as that was the one my wife likes and me too, but worried about the large tyres 18in, think they would not be on the shelf all over Australia if you need one in a hurry, then my son to-day said a large hire place who uses them said they are getting rid of these as they keep breaking down, more doubt in my mind now, waiting on a price from Ford with what I want on it so will now more in a day or two.
0
FollowupID: 640778

Reply By: D200Dug- Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 13:58

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 13:58
We just bought a run out rodeo demonstrator model.

They made us an offer we could not refuse ! It needed some basic modifications as the suspension was far to soft for towing and a Diesel Power chip helped performance. Apart from that it has worked up into a pretty nice unit and we hare happy with it.

The Rodeo is the Isuzu just rebadged so an older engine but lots of them are made and very few problems that we have heard of.

3000kg to rating made a difference for us I think the Ford is much less.

Also my kids would never allow me to drive a Mitsubishi or Nissan !!!!!

Just family bias :-)
AnswerID: 373599

Follow Up By: briggspc - Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 19:26

Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 19:26
Yes I agree would not have a Nissan after what I have read, most off the new models are good that are available to-day and after a long look have now decided on a 3 litre Turbo Diesel common rail they seem to be very good but not the one in the Nevada, mind you I was always going to get a 4.2 litre 6, they call them bullet proof but think fuel will never come down again.

Also looked at the Colorado LT-R To-Day and boy the wife said she loves it and don't blame her with all the stuff we want the price was good as well but will have to wait till October if we wont one...bit rude
0
FollowupID: 640785

Sponsored Links