The Service Schedules on later model 4bys makes it a expensive exercise to own o
Submitted: Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:50
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Member - Axle
They recommend wheel bearing service every 20,000km, on a LC IOO toyo.
The overhead cam shim adjustment should be done at about the same time.
Oil changesfilters, every 5- 10 thousand.
Then rego ..and insurance!
Then the unexpected whatever!
These 4bys cost a lot of money these days to own and run
Just wondering if a blokes better off forgetting the caravan and
camping show and buying a little pug that runs on nothing, and staying in a comfy motel
for less money overall, and still be able to have a wander through national parks anyway!!. mmmmm!, trouble is theres nothing like your own bed on
wheels.
Travelling is getting a costly exercise these days , I know we feel it just on moderate runs. I guess everyones situation is different.
Cheers Axle.
Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:53
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:53
Axle,
go the extra dollars and get a 200 Series Cruiser.
The wheel bearings don't need servicing... EVER.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:04
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:04
Lol! Gone Bush, Bit like there autos, without service will last the life of the vehicle, which is What???????. :)).
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: tim_c - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:58
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:58
I can get the bearings re-packed a lot of times for the price of a 200! :)
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:59
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:59
Was down at my mechanics during the week for a pajero service.
Noticed a 100 series toyo up on the hoist with the sump off (and all of th steering gear and bash plate to get to the sump).
Was told it was in for a 100,000k service and standard peoceedure is to replace the main crank bearings as
well as the timing belt on the 1HZ diesel.
Is that right?
No wonder they last for ever, like my grandfathers axe with 2 new heads and 4 new handles.
Oh wahat a feeling for that service bill.
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Follow Up By: Krakka - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:36
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:36
Errrrrrrrrr don't think so.
Krakka
ps. timing belt changes on 100s is 150K. I would be looking for another mechanic if I ws you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:51
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:51
If it was a 1HZ it was either a pre 2002 or a
barn door standard model as the GXL's have the 1HD-FTE in them.
From what has been posted on here some 1 HZ's do over 400,000 without being touched.
As
well as a timing belt TOYO recommend injector pipes at the same k's and at $150 or more each I dont think to many would do them .
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:26
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:26
"As
well as a timing belt TOYO recommend injector pipes at the same k's and at $150 or more each I dont think to many would do them ."
Local Toyota dealer told me they no longer recommend changing injector pipes at 150K
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:30
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:30
Graham.
Yeah, that would be it, a 1HD----- whatever.
Was a reasonably new 100 series.
Can't have been too new since I know the 200 series is now out.
Maybe it was 150k service too, all I know is that the mechanic said it was a standard big service.
Could never follow toyota and their numbering system for models and engines.
Mitsubishi keep it simple, I have the 4M40 2.8l motor, the next one is the 4M41 3.2l :o)
It still makes you wonder though, the servicing required to keep these new cars on the road, or of as is the case :o0.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:23
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:23
Cant find ANY service in my book that does crank bearings.
Sounds like **** to me
With bearings if it aint broke dont touch it would apply.
Must be more to the story, as there usually is.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:24
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:24
pretty sure the GXL also came with 1HZ, just not the other way round unfortunately
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:38
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:38
Yes the solid front end up to Sept 2002 did.
After that they had the 1 HD in them except for any that didnt have the Turbo sticker if in fact there was any.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 15:16
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 15:16
I think the early factory Toyota turbo diesels in 60 or 80 series had a bearing issue which was replaced under warranty many years back.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:02
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:02
I promised my GU petrol patrol that I would take it to Nissan for its first paid service at 200,000k , but I was feeling guilty and got it some new spark plugs at $9.95 each when it was 150,000 so I might renege , on the other hand I could get a cruiser diesel and pay $1000- $2600 for an injector as per other posts running at the moment.
Mind you with the fuel I'd save with the diesel I could buy a new injector every year or so.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:19
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:19
Mate I'm doing some calcs on the old Landy 300tdi expense over 200,000ks servicing ,repairs etc, Apart from chiropractor accounts!...lol, old Tech is just cheaper..end of story.
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:34
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:34
"on the other hand I could get a cruiser diesel and pay $1000- $2600 for an injector"
Listed at $390 on my pricelist?
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:41
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:41
Every time I think of buying a new vehicle I do the calculations:- drive it out of the dealership, there goes a few grand. Have to have it serviced some where to cover the warranty more dough and is the new ones going to last the distance?
My MU now has 250Ks and yes it won't last for ever, but I can buy a second hand motor for $4.5k oh and I have two so I can use the other for spare parts lol.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:35
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 07:35
Same thinking here.
My pajero must be about the same age.
330,000k now.
But another 10 years and we could be stuffed. :o(
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 19:36
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 19:36
Yep' me too
My old 1991 HZJ75 with various outback (CSR, GRR Kimberly etc) and lots of bitumen k's hauling camper, trailers and now 22' van has had what by apparent recommendations could only be referred to as "less is more" servicing. When I think of the amount of money I would lose by buying a new one with all the latest gizmo's and wizzbangery I break out into a cold sweat. (yes I am a miserable tightarsed old sod) I am looking for another vehicle of the same vintage to buy and keep as a spare parts store to keep the old girl going. I guess being a diesel mechanic makes doing this a bit easier than someone who finds things mechanical a bit too unpleasant.
Cheers Pop
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Reply By: kend88 - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:47
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 20:47
definately cheaper to have a smaller
sedan and stay in motels or cabins. The extra fuel alone towing a van would pay for the accomodation, but it is a pain in the butt finding and deciding on motels etc after a long day's drive, booking in, then going back out to find somewhere to eat. nothing like your own accomodation, van or campervan, particularly if you have shower and
toilet on board.
kenD
bris
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Follow Up By: Rod, Sydney - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 21:02
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 21:02
The best bit about
camping is going where others aren't! Hard to do that when you are limited to Motels. Having the flexibility is unfortunately expensive.
Cheers
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Reply By: Members Paul and Melissa (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 21:51
Thursday, Jul 23, 2009 at 21:51
Mine has done 74k and i have never done
mine(wheel bearings).many things in the service schedule are a crock.at 80k i will probably do them and repack the CVs as
well, oil and filter every 5k without fail. Rocker adjusts every 40 to 60k and even thats conservative.diffs and transfer oils every 40k.auto every 20k($40 service kit and DXIII for
mine)if it runs WS do it every 60k or so.
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:07
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:07
Of course a 4by is expensive to own, but if you paid $50k plus, the biggest hand in your pocket is called "depreciation". It is not service, parts, or fuel.
Those cost roughly the same whether you drive a $100k 200, or a $10k Jack,
like me. Your $100k jobbie is costing you about the same as the value of my
Jack every year. I readily acknowledge that I am a miserly old fart, but that
$10k pays for my annual outback trek easily, sadly ,you have to add it to your costs, if you run a new 200. No offence meant to all you lucky 200 drivers, but
I think the true cost of owning & running a 4by are not
well understood by
many. I couldnt stand it if the weekly loss of value of my rig due to depreciation
exceeded my total average weekly running costs... but, as said, I am a
miserable, minimalist old sod, still getting around Oz in a sub $20k setup.....
and lovin' it...only 5 weeks & off again..yippee....:))).....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: tim_c - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:06
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:06
Too true Oldbaz. My last car (also a Jack) cost me ~$2k a year in depreciation, but I could have paid someone to take at the end and still been ahead of my brother who bought himself a much newer TX Prado!
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:26
Friday, Jul 24, 2009 at 13:26
Good day Baz and Tim,
My Jack in 47000ks has cost me one timing belt(done it early), one inlet manifold gasket(460 including labour) and a bit of mucvking arround to get to the bottom of my ce light problems. Baz before you go get your iac motor cleaned, the egr valve cleaned and checked and have the throttle body cleaned, you will not know it afterwards. Must get the wheel bearings checked at the next service though.
Cheers Pete
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